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KqWIN said:
Clarkson is only a neutral if a “power of friendship” situation pops up.
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I don’t disagree but I think there are a few of those out there potentially. And by neutral what I mean is I think we could get an equivalent expiring straight up. Not a straight dump into someone’s cap space.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I don’t disagree but I think there are a few of those out there potentially. And by neutral what I mean is I think we could get an equivalent expiring straight up. Not a straight dump into someone’s cap space.
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Eh….Idk about that. I think THJ was kind of neutral (even though Grimes is the goat) and he was better than JC+is expiring.

I think the trade with ATL makes sense. Kessler+Clarkson for Capela and picks. Maybe we can also redirect Capela to another team.
 
Minor blip about Utah:

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How Paul George remains the key to the free agent market

The Clippers want flexibility and to avoid the second apron, and they have made it clear to this point they have no intention of awarding any player — not Kawhi Leonard, not George, not James Harden — with a contract beyond three years, league sources told Yahoo Sports.
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There’s another team lingering on the periphery of this situation as well. The Utah Jazz have all the cap space, veteran salaries and exorbitant draft capital to add the type of co-stars — such as Mikal Bridges, once upon a time, whom the team attempted to land this week, sources said, before New York splurged six years of first-round draft assets for the Villanova product — to round out a roster that already features All-Star forward Lauri Markkanen. That appears to have been Utah’s dreamiest plot this summer, according to league figures with knowledge of the situation, trading for one or even two more bonafide pieces to then entice George to flee Los Angeles for Salt Lake City. That mirror to how George landed in Los Angeles back in 2019 — when the Clippers sent a bounty to OKC for his services, and thus signed Leonard in tow — is quite fascinating, although incredibly unlikely George makes it a reality.
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TheStormofWar said:
Minor blip about Utah:

sports.yahoo.com

How Paul George remains the key to the free agent market

The Clippers want flexibility and to avoid the second apron, and they have made it clear to this point they have no intention of awarding any player — not Kawhi Leonard, not George, not James Harden — with a contract beyond three years, league sources told Yahoo Sports.
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Yeah, I feel like this kind of stuff gets how there via The Jazz to make Ryan happy.
 
KqWIN said:
Eh….Idk about that. I think THJ was kind of neutral (even though Grimes is the goat) and he was better than JC+is expiring.

I think the trade with ATL makes sense. Kessler+Clarkson for Capela and picks. Maybe we can also redirect Capela to another team.
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I think Dlo for JC could happen as well even though Dlo played way better than JC and is expiring with similar money. Value is very subjective. I think his value is close enough to neutral that it would only require a second or two to move him if we needed to. Collins is another story.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I think Dlo for JC could happen as well even though Dlo played way better than JC and is expiring with similar money. Value is very subjective. I think his value is close enough to neutral that it would only require a second or two to move him if we needed to. Collins is another story.
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I think both JC’s are mostly the same story. In a specific situation, it could happen. But reality is we’re either paying to get rid of them or waiting two years.

Collins costs double, but can actually be seen as a good player. Clarkson was one of the worst players in the entire league last year and is old.
 
Pinhead said:
Nah - I think the Jazz went for him hard and lost to NY. It explains the overpay.
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They went hard enough to make it feel real for New York to push in. Also Utah wasn't the only other team out there trying for Bridges. I'm sure Houston pushes them harder than the Jazz did
 
KqWIN said:
I think both JC’s are mostly the same story. In a specific situation, it could happen. But reality is we’re either paying to get rid of them or waiting two years.

Collins costs double, but can actually be seen as a good player. Clarkson was one of the worst players in the entire league last year and is old.
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Clarkson is probably a lost cause but I could see Collins building legit value by mid-season. He was very good the second half of the season and I expect him to be just as good or maybe better the first half of this year since he will be comfortable from the get go. That level of play makes his contract pretty solid since at that point you are only looking at a year and a half or he may even opt out if he is playing really well and take his chance in free agency.
 
sip said:
Clarkson is probably a lost cause but I could see Collins building legit value by mid-season. He was very good the second half of the season and I expect him to be just as good or maybe better the first half of this year since he will be comfortable from the get go. That level of play makes his contract pretty solid since at that point you are only looking at a year and a half or he may even opt out if he is playing really well and take his chance in free agency.
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I agree. He was really good the second half of the season….unfortunately that awful first half still counts, so he’ll need a bit of time to prove out the player he is.

Even now, I could see some team taking him in because he can be a useful (albeit overpaid) player if they don’t have other options.
 
sip said:
Clarkson is probably a lost cause but I could see Collins building legit value by mid-season. He was very good the second half of the season and I expect him to be just as good or maybe better the first half of this year since he will be comfortable from the get go. That level of play makes his contract pretty solid since at that point you are only looking at a year and a half or he may even opt out if he is playing really well and take his chance in free agency.
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Clarkson definitely isn't a lost cause. Players of his ilk can have outlier bad seasons randomly and return the next year back to form. Get him back in a role that makes sense and he could have a career year. He's gotten undeniably better under Hardy, I think he just needs his overall load dialed back a bit
 
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