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2025 Off-Season Trade Ideas Thread

KqWIN said:
I've crunched some numbers and a Lauri -> GSW trade is nearly impossible or might actually be impossible. BYC on Kuminga's S&T and first apron restrictions make it extra hard. That ship has sailed.
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No one ever said sports trade bettors were very smart people.

There's probably around 5 total people involved in the "what team will Lauri Markkanen get traded to if he's traded" market.
 
Seems like KD -> SAS is gonna happen. I think DET would probably be the most likely Lauri destination, but we probably won't be trading him. That's my #ToneWatch.
 
KqWIN said:
I've crunched some numbers and a Lauri -> GSW trade is nearly impossible or might actually be impossible. BYC on Kuminga's S&T and first apron restrictions make it extra hard. That ship has sailed.
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Golden State could make it work with Utah but it would have to include a S&T with Jonathan Kuminga.

The Warriors would need to send out $36,825,280 of salary at minimum to the Jazz for Lauri Markkanen. This is because if you send outgoing salary over 29M you can take back 125% of the amount you send out plus 250K.

The S&T salary for the team sending out only counts as 50% of their new salary outgoing. For example, if a players new salary is 20M only 10M of it counts as outgoing.

Moses Moody + Buddy Hield + Trayce Jackson-Davis gets you to $23,015,264.

That would mean year 1 of Kuminga’s extension would have to be at least $27,700,032 or more to make the deal legal.

Those four players plus draft compensation would almost certainly have to be the deal unless you swap in Brandin Podziemski for TJD.
 
KD's playstyle absolutely sucks for winning these days, but it's fine if he's replacing Devin Vassell, one of the very few players in the NBA worse than Durant at passing.
 
KqWIN said:
If Giannis stays, they have to do a Dame trade. Not just for next season, but also for cap space aspirations in Summer 26. The plan for MIL should be to open as much cap space as possible for that summer. Max player (or multiple very good FA's) + Giannis signing extension would be the end goal and they probably can't get one without the other.

I don't think there exists a team with better one year contract players than Utah. Am I missing anyone? Sexton + Collins is pretty good to just make it into the east playoffs. Maybe Portland with Ayton + Simons? Crap I really love that move for POR.
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What the Hell are we getting back for this? I don't see the reason to give up good players on expiring contracts for that absolute albatross of a contract. The Bucks have little to give us to justify that.
 
Elizah Huge said:
Golden State could make it work with Utah but it would have to include a S&T with Jonathan Kuminga.

The Warriors would need to send out $36,825,280 of salary at minimum to the Jazz for Lauri Markkanen. This is because if you send outgoing salary over 29M you can take back 125% of the amount you send out plus 250K.

The S&T salary for the team sending out only counts as 50% of their new salary outgoing. For example, if a players new salary is 20M only 10M of it counts as outgoing.

Moses Moody + Buddy Hield + Trayce Jackson-Davis gets you to $23,015,264.

That would mean year 1 of Kuminga’s extension would have to be at least $27,700,032 or more to make the deal legal.

Those four players plus draft compensation would almost certainly have to be the deal unless you swap in Brandin Podziemski for TJD.
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Lauri would take them past the first apron, which means the Warriors can’t take back more than 100%. The only way I made it “work” is including GP3 (could be Looney) in a sign and trade to make their outgoing > Lauri’s contract. But for the Jazz to acquire that salary, Moody would have to go into a trade exception. Which I think is possible.

Anyways, I’m not spend any more energy thinking about that possibility. Ship has sailed.
 
KqWIN said:
Lauri would take them past the first apron, which means the Warriors can’t take back more than 100%. The only way I made it “work” is including GP3 (could be Looney) in a sign and trade to make their outgoing > Lauri’s contract. But for the Jazz to acquire that salary, Moody would have to go into a trade exception. Which I think is possible.

Anyways, I’m not spend any more energy thinking about that possibility. Ship has sailed.
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The fact that they are somehow favorites is a joke.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
KOC talking Lauri to Magic. Cole + Isaacs works money wise
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This fit is absolutely miserable, but IDK, maybe.

The issue again is that the Magic are going to offer the Jazz almost nothing for Lauri. They're going to owe 80% to 85% to Franz, Paolo, and Lauri alone and the ownership is the worst in the NBA and won't go above the tax (121% of the cap).
 
Also, I don't think that Isaac+Cole even comes close to Lauri money-wise. Isaac's contract gets much smaller next year and I think the trades would be executed based on the 2025-2026 salaries.
 
framer said:
What the Hell are we getting back for this? I don't see the reason to give up good players on expiring contracts for that absolute albatross of a contract. The Bucks have little to give us to justify that.
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You don't think Jazz would give up Collins/Sexton for a contract+ unprotected '31 Bucks FRP? That's really what we are talking about...not Dame. That pick is the exact kind of asset they should go after and the type of shrewd acquisition Presti was making during their rebuild. Not to mention would make it alot easier to "play hard" every game and not play tank games with veteran guys.
 
ORL is a good on court fit for Lauri, but not money wise. Banchero and Wagner will be in big money. Lauri is too expensive to be a third guy….and this is a complication for a lot of his potential destination.

Think DET makes the most sense because Cade would be their only max type player going forward.
 
Three-way trade idea:

Jazz out: John Collins & Collin Sexton
Jazz in: Damian Lillard & MKE 2031 unprotected first

Celtics out: Jrue Holiday
Celtics in: Collin Sexton

Bucks out: Damian Lillard & MKE 2031 unprotected first
Bucks in: John Collins & Jrue Holiday

Boston saves 13.2M in salary. They would then need to only shed around 6.8M more to completely get under the second apron. They save this much money in one swoop and add a really talented guard in Sexton.

Milwaukee trades Lillard who is likely out for the year for Giannis’ old running mate Jrue and a very serviceable big to help them win games in Collins. Both of those players would immediately improve their roster greatly. The cost of doing business is their 2031 first.

Utah takes on Lillard’s salary and lets him rehab for the entire season. They essentially move off of Collins and Sexton for no production for a year to make the team worse and help the 2026 tank. They also get a very valuable pick asset for taking on so much salary while providing good players in return.

Quite literally a win-win-win trade all the way around for every team.
 
Elizah Huge said:
Three-way trade idea:

Jazz out: John Collins & Collin Sexton
Jazz in: Damian Lillard & MKE 2031 unprotected first

Celtics out: Jrue Holiday
Celtics in: Collin Sexton

Bucks out: Damian Lillard & MKE 2031 unprotected first
Bucks in: John Collins & Jrue Holiday

Boston saves 13.2M in salary. They would then need to only shed around 6.8M more to completely get under the second apron. They save this much money in one swoop and add a really talented guard in Sexton.

Milwaukee trades Lillard who is likely out for the year for Giannis’ old running mate Jrue and a very serviceable big to help them win games in Collins. Both of those players would immediately improve their roster greatly. The cost of doing business is their 2031 first.

Utah takes on Lillard’s salary and lets him rehab for the entire season. They essentially move off of Collins and Sexton for no production for a year to make the team worse and help the 2026 tank. They also get a very valuable pick asset for taking on so much salary while providing good players in return.

Quite literally a win-win-win trade all the way around for every team.
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No way you get it unprotected IMO. At least a top 3 protection would be attached
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
No way you get it unprotected IMO. At least a top 3 protection would be attached
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Why? Dame is essentially dead money until he proves otherwise. If this contract buys them a year or two with Giannis then the rebuild can be affected by an additional year. Make it a super swap or top 4 protected that turns into 2 seconds maybe.
 
It sounds like Collins is worth maybe a late first right now, Sexton maybe too... how much is 50-60M in cap space each year worth?

Add it up and I think that's worth a real future first with upside. Not a lot of teams that are able to take Dame. Giannis taking a gap year in his prime in that Eastern Conference is insane... and only to be back in the same place...Dame will still be tough to trade without a sweetner.

So are you trading Giannis or keeping him? If you are keeping him then a trade almost has to happen.
 
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