5 year old kills 2 year old sister... with a birthday present.

[Beantown]

Remember this, before the Revolution War the British were trying to take away the colonies weapons. This is what basically started the war. The point is government needs to keep weapons out of the crazies hands as best they can. But citizens should always have to the right to adequately defend themselves, from bad guys and the government.

 

[The Black Swordsman]

Areas with more citizens that carry guns have less violent crime and the numbers prove that.

 

[Bronco70]

Taking away citizens freedom to have guns works just fine in Japan.

And North Korea!

You keep going to the Japan example, but you could have scarcely picked a worse country for comparison.

It is one thing to keep guns out of the hands of the citizenry, it is another completely to disarm a country that already has 300,000,000 non-military guns in circulation. There is no practical or safe way to effectively take guns out of the equation. Never mind the fact that it would be blatantly unconstitutional.

So, what are you left with? Solving the real problem - people. Nah, too hard. We can't offend anyone...

 

[Nate505]

Do you think that when people say gun reduces the murder rate, that means the only significant factor is the level of gun control? If not, why would such a list be meaningful?

When I hear people say "the US has much more gun related crime than countries with gun control" I just expect to see something corroborating that.

 

[MVP]

It is one thing to keep guns out of the hands of the citizenry, it is another completely to disarm a country that already has 300,000,000 non-military guns in circulation. There is no practical or safe way to effectively take guns out of the equation. Never mind the fact that it would be blatantly unconstitutional.

So, what are you left with? Solving the real problem - people. Nah, too hard. We can't offend anyone...

I agree that current situation in USA looks like huge mess which is difficult to solve. Well, at least make it more difficult to possess guns in the future. Ban handgun sales. Create registry of gun owners. Create laws which makes it unlawful to possess gun in public places. See what Australia and UK are doing - I think that's something to learn from. Promote gas guns instead - they will defend you just fine but they would not be fatal.

 

[Nate505]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/08/02/did-gun-control-work-in-australia/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Australia

So are guns like really hard to get in Australia now? Not really, you get get a license and get them. That's my whole beef with gun control, and most prohibition in general. It never works when there is a demand for something, with maybe the exception of having a totalitarian government that will execute you if you possess something. In this case Australia didn't even prohibit something, just restricted its access more. Since I don't live there I have no clue how many criminals have guns there. It appears that gun violence in general wasn't all that great before these restrictions were implemented, so I can't tell if it's a cultural thing or not for their criminals to just shoot people willy nilly like it is here in areas of Oakland I wouldn't go near if you paid me.

 

[Nate505]

I agree that current situation in USA looks like huge mess which is difficult to solve. Well, at least make it more difficult to possess guns in the future. Ban handgun sales. Create registry of gun owners. Create laws which makes it unlawful to possess gun in public places. See what Australia and UK are doing - I think that's something to learn from. Promote gas guns instead - they will defend you just fine but they would not be fatal.

Yeah, I'm sure g-homie dog who is dealing crack in East St. Louis is going to give a flying f about illegally possessing a handgun.

 

[The Black Swordsman]

https://www.inquisitr.com/257478/more-americans-killed-in-chicago-than-in-afghanistan/

"The murder rate in Chicago is twice that of Los Angeles and four times higher than New York’s rate"

One of the highest murder rates, one of the strictest gun laws

 

[trigg3r]

I agree that current situation in USA looks like huge mess which is difficult to solve. Well, at least make it more difficult to possess guns in the future. Ban handgun sales. Create registry of gun owners. Create laws which makes it unlawful to possess gun in public places. See what Australia and UK are doing - I think that's something to learn from. Promote gas guns instead - they will defend you just fine but they would not be fatal.

No.

 

[Surely]

I agree that current situation in USA looks like huge mess which is difficult to solve. Well, at least make it more difficult to possess guns in the future. Ban handgun sales. Create registry of gun owners. Create laws which makes it unlawful to possess gun in public places. See what Australia and UK are doing - I think that's something to learn from. Promote gas guns instead - they will defend you just fine but they would not be fatal.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't several of the shootings (Aurora, Newtown) in places that were gun free zones? Perhaps what we should focus on is educating the criminals on where they can and cannot commit a crime with a gun. Then we could create all these gun free zones and really be safe inside them.

 

[One Brow]

Areas with more citizens that carry guns have less violent crime and the numbers prove that.

Major cities have stricter gun laws because they see their streets being even more deadly when guns are prevalent. Major cities also have higher crime rates. You do understand correlation =/= causation, right?

 

[One Brow]

When I hear people say "the US has much more gun related crime than countries with gun control" I just expect to see something corroborating that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate