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******* dads.

Things are never black and white. I find it counterproductive to place all the blame on one party. Each person should see what things they are doing that are causing conflict and try to improve. No one is perfect. Perhaps you could take that approach with the Father. I know your upset with your son and he did some things he shouldn't have but as a family member I have notice he gets good grades, goes to church etc as is doing positive things but I am not sure if he gets enough positive reinforcement for the good things he does. You can even quote studies about positive reinforcement if he believes in science.


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If I was the other kid I'd leave as well. If the dad is willing to do that to my sibling he will be willing to do that to me.
 
Stoked said:
If I was the other kid I'd leave as well. If the dad is willing to do that to my sibling he will be willing to do that to me.
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Depends on the amount of sole inheritance and overall health condition of dad, though.. right?
 
Dr. Jones said:
Depends on the amount of sole inheritance and overall health condition of dad, though.. right?
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Haha, actually I had a chance to be rich. I'm adopted (twice actually) and my first adoptive dad's family was extremely well off.
 
E.J. Wells said:
That would make me the blackest sheep in the family, and I'm already grey enough, thank you very much. Besides, do you really think he'd listen to me?
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Do you need me to arrange something for you and the you you wish you were at his age?
 
E.J. Wells said:
So, that's my rant. What do you guys think? Regardless of what this kid did, also assuming he may be totally innocent, is the dad justified in saying those things and acting like that? What would it take for you to snap and treat your son or daughter like that? I'm genuinely curious at your responses, because I think I'm in the minority here when I say, there is nothing short of murder or rape that would make me disown a child?

Are you an ******* dad?
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I have no personal reference as I have no children and only have a 14 year old cat named Rollins.

That being said, I don't think you're out of line or nuts for thinking and feeling what you do. I think the father in your story sounds like a complete ****ing ******* and probably has a lot of dysfunction in his life. I think if you looked to his childhood, you'd find some sort of issue as most of these types of issues are generational.

The rub in this story is that the kid might be better off not having that guy as his Dad...in the long mental run. In the short run, as a kid being kicked out of the house, that's pretty ****ed up. The father sounds like your run of the mill religious hypocrite where his religion plays no role in making his life or the life of his friends and family better.

In respect to the other folks you mentioned that have taken the father's side, are they blind to the scenario? Do they not see the Dad as an *******?
 
Red Jazz Fan said:
I did some things at 18 that put me at odds with my entire family(nearly landed me in jail) but it was a turning point for me. Up until that point I would have sold my dead grandmother for a candy bar. I was an absolute pile of ****(liar, unethical, thief) but the shame and disrespect I brought to my family, made me have a hallelujah moment. I hope this kid is able to find that for himself, with or without the ******* "dad". Keep us posted!
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Really? I never would have guessed. Goes to show you, you never really know a person.
 
dalamon said:
I agree-- but I feel like the kid needs some adult support & it's a bummer he has zero people who love him in his life


Edit: my dad isn't nearly, NEARLY as bad as this pile of excrement-- but he's no angel either, and I don't really have too superb of a relationship with him.

My mom is my best friend, tho.
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Give it a few years, trust me it will reverse.


Cy said:
That's pretty much 80% of males. Father/Son relationships tend to be more tense.
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Dr. Jones said:
My dad was awesome before he drowned. He considered me his best friend. Did everything together since I was like 1 year old.
Crazy cool stuff.
On the other hand, he also snorted coke in front of me and banged mega chicks on the side (while still married to my mom).. all with me 'around.'

I am gald I had the experiences I had. I feel like I have, for the most part, taken the good stuff and said no thanks to the bad..
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Many fathers want their sons to be their best friends. Boys turn into teenagers and want to be normal teenagers, which creates a bit of resentment in fathers, hence the blow back. Especially since loving fathers tend to have a hard time letting kids go and grow up.
 
Oh, we're talking recreational drugs now? Never tried coke, hate weed bad, hate shrooms and acid, but holy **** meth was a helluva drug. I see why people get addicted.
 
franklin said:
Oh, we're talking recreational drugs now? Never tried coke, hate weed bad, hate shrooms and acid, but holy **** meth was a helluva drug. I see why people get addicted.
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I have never tried coke either, I've done shrooms a couple of times, and I just recently started smoking weed again. The weed out here is fantastic.
 
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