Following Potential 2018 Draftees

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  1. LoPo

    LoPo Well-Known Member

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    Explain. What's out of bounds with my logic? Please show me anything that says Nkilitina is untouchable. Please show me anything that establishes his value.

    LoPo speculates because that's what LoPo does. It's food for thought. That's it. This isn't a mock draft, but a possible scenario for what we do with our pick.
     
  2. rare144

    rare144 Well-Known Member

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    Who needs ESPN Trade Machine when we have LOPO

    Watch ESPN fire some dudes and bring him in
     
  3. Catchall

    Catchall Well-Known Member

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    Value pick version of Jamal Murray.
     
  4. Bawse Dawg

    Bawse Dawg Well-Known Member

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    Okay so they want to trade with the Bulls:

    What seems reasonable?

    “We’ll trade you number 9 and the promising Frankie Nicotine for #7”

    Or

    “We’ll trade the promising Frankie Nicotine for the 21st pick, and then we’ll trade you #21 and #9 for #7”
     
  5. Saint Cy of JFC

    Saint Cy of JFC Well-Known Member

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    IDK if I would say proven, but they arent just going to give up on the 8th overall pick for the 21st pick.
     
  6. mellow

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    Regarding Robinson...
    Is his defense really that bad? Is it effort, technique or ability? Could it improve with coaching? Can he play in stretches as a scorer knowing he probably won't be playing in the closing minutes?
     
  7. LoPo

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    The Bulls might not want Nkilitina because they have Kris Dunn, Zach LaVine and Cameron Payne.
     
  8. stitches

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    Yeah... I wouldn't say he's proven either, but he's proven he can play NBA level defense. Lets see what he can do on offense in the next year or two.
     
  9. LoPo

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    Yeah, but everybody says Nkilitina was drafted too high. So what is his real value with the regards to 2017? 13-15? Now if this draft is stronger, the #15 pick in 2017 might be worth the #20 pick in 2018. The main thing in the entire conversation is this - NY has given up on him for the role for which he was drafted. His stock is at an all time low and I like buying low.
     
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  10. Bawse Dawg

    Bawse Dawg Well-Known Member

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  11. Catchall

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    It might be a case where he was needed so much on offense that he coasted on defense. Hard to say. That's one reason he needs to workout.
     
  12. mellow

    mellow Well-Known Member

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    Then again they might want a point guard because they have Kris Dunn, Zach LaVine and Cameron Payne.
     
  13. Bawse Dawg

    Bawse Dawg Well-Known Member

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    Would you guys trade Royce O’Neale for #22?

    Of course not.
     
  14. stitches

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    Depends on who's there. I might.
     
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  15. kabenac

    kabenac Well-Known Member

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    8-foot baskets. Canada is so weird with sports. When I played football there they had 3 downs and not 4.

    That kid needs better competition, stat.
     
  16. Bawse Dawg

    Bawse Dawg Well-Known Member

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    You guys are crazy. Lol

    You know how unpredictable draft picks are, right?
     
  17. seattlejazzfan

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    Comparisons are fun, but they say nothing of potential NBA success or lack of. In that sense they are pretty silly. Two completely different players.

    For example his game could be compared to a guy like Harvey who never did anything or I've seen a lot of comparisons to Rip Hamilton who was a very successful player in the league.

    Reality is his career will likely be very different than both players.
     
  18. seattlejazzfan

    seattlejazzfan Well-Known Member

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    Not as bad as they are saying. About average. Had to score a lot at BC, could be better on D without the scoring load responsibility.
     
  19. Catchall

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    I would. I think Okogie will do everything O'Neale does and more.
     
  20. stitches

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    I don't know if I can keep my support for MPJ anymore. This is becoming worrying. I said when I posted my big board that I didn't take into account whatever medical issues players have because I don't have their records and I'm in no position to judge their health... but... this is not good.
     

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