Following Potential 2018 Draftees

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  1. Bawse Dawg

    Bawse Dawg Well-Known Member

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    Trade Mitchell’s best friend for a guy who can hopefully do what we already know Royce can do?
     
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  2. stitches

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  3. Catchall

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    Okogie is a better shooter, better scorer (especially mid-range), better rebounder and can create off the dribble for his teammates. They're not that close as prospects. O'Neale is a nice find and an extremely valuable contract. That's the only factor that makes it a bit of a debate.
     
  4. Catchall

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  5. Xthren

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  6. Xthren

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    be careful because to post a full article on a paid subscription is against the rules
     
  7. Saint Cy of JFC

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    Yeah, i wouldnt trade Royce for a player in the 20's. His defense is too valuable. I doubt Okogie could come in and play the level of defense Royce has. Plus the Mitchell connection gives him an added level of plot armor.
     
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  8. rare144

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    I'm a superstitious fellow, and KBD falling to the floor in agony during the workout interview is all I need to know on him ;)
     
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  9. Saint Cy of JFC

    Saint Cy of JFC Well-Known Member

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    Where you not aware that Brown couldnt shoot before? He is a project in that regard.
     
  10. Ellis269

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    Also, consider the improvements that Royce has made over the past 2 seasons. From a free agent workout, summer league work, playing overseas, getting a shot in training camp, cracking the rotation, playing well when given minutes and finally starting and contributing in a second round playoff series. . . I’m thinking there’s enough upside to develop him for the next three years and then make an informed decision on his future. The Spurs have thrived by finding these guys. Danny Green and Jonathon Simmons are both great examples.
     
  11. Catchall

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    ESPN may be buying into the idea that the Jazz gave Huerter a guarantee. I'm not 100% sure the Jazz would take Huerter over Okobo. The Jazz may think they're going to pick up a combo forward in trade or free agency a year from now though and could pass on KBD if they're not sold on him.
     
  12. whatthe

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    I thought he was inolved more in PnR in college, but he wasn't and that has turned me off. Great kid and maybe because he is so young he turns it around (if he could add great shooting than that would cure a lot of his weaknesses), but I would take him now only near the end of the 1st.
     
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  14. SCS

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    Straight up? No.

    Known vs Unknown. We know O'Neale. We know his strengths and weaknesses. We know his value to the team. We know he's a good role player. We also know that he's a good locker room fit and a friend of Donovan. We don't know that any of that would be the case with the player we get at 22. Plus O'Neales contract is a bargain. 1.3 mill next year, 1.6 mill the year after that. It's basically the same price that they'd be paying the player at 22 on a rookie scale, but again we already know what we have with O'Neale.
     
  15. infection

    infection Well-Known Member 2018 Award Winner

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    That's worse than those half-assed Kanter high school highlights. That kid should be more dominant than he is. Put some hustle into it or find another league if you're that bored. And take away the horn from whoever the hell kept blowing it.

    Canadians SMH
     
  16. Saint Cy of JFC

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    Wait, shouldn't that first part turn you on? The college game is trash compared to the NBA. College programs are really bad at running PNR. Most college system are just rotating the ball around the perimeter until the other team makes a rotation mistake. So the fact that his biggest strength (ball-handling playmaking) wasnt properly utilized because of how college basketball is played should explain why his numbers were worse than projected coming into the year.
     
  17. Saint Cy of JFC

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    You can really tell his agent wanted to emphasize dunks to show he is a better athlete than he measured.
     
  18. bigmike

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    As a USC alum, I'm not a Metu fan. He's an athlete and has stretch 4 potential, but he's kind of a turd. Seems to have an attitude/entitlement streak, and I don't think he'd mesh well in the locker room.
     
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  19. LoPo

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    I wouldn't trade O'Neale for #22, but that's because I'm a fan and I like O'Neale.

    However, if the FO wanted to trade O'Neale for #22 because they knew #21 and #22 could be packaged to trade up for somebody better, then I trust the FO.

    I don't see any current realistic scenarios worth trading Mitchell, Gobert, Ingles, O'Neale, Rubio or Crowder. There might be a scenario worth trading Bradley.
     
  20. kabenac

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    Fight On!
    (2005 here)
     
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