He has legit PG skills dummy
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And Fears is 6'4 in shoes. He's not tiny.
6'4 180 w/ a 6'5 wingspan. He's probably the definition of average sized PG.
I made a list of college players drafted 3-8 to try find some trends. One of the first things to pop out is that from 2012-2021, there has only been one “bust” compared to several “stars”. That one bust is Kris Dunn.
Tbf, there are 3 guys drafted at #9 that just barely miss the cut off and would be considered busts. But even if you count them, there as many stars as busts. PG’s have the highest hit rate in this 3-8 range for sure.
Tbf, there are 3 guys drafted at #9 that just barely miss the cut off and would be considered busts. But even if you count them, there as many stars as busts. PG’s have the highest hit rate in this 3-8 range for sure.
Im starting to believe Fears > VJ
View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qoXEGlNK7jQ
Crazy how high Tre gets on this dunk compared to Ace/Harper
Right, but it sounds like Brooklyn and New Orleans are interested in Fears and might trade up to #6 to take him. In other words, if the Jazz decide they want Fears, they probably can't trade back from #5 to take him.
The positional value of Fears as a primary initiator is greater than a high-energy combo like VJ. It's just so important in the playoffs to be able to put the ball down and be dynamic off the dribble. That said, maybe VJ is going to be dynamic too.
I’m still on VJ’s side, but Fears does deserve a more respect around here.
Yes and no. If he’s a star level imitator of course that is more important than a defensive combo. But anything short of that, it gets questionable. There are so many of these combo types still playing and it is crucial that they play well.
Have to be elite of the elite to be a primary initiator this deep into the playoffs.
There are 3 years on that contract. That's too long. It'll hamstring anyone who takes it.
This one is really tough for me because I am high on Fears, but VJ's defensive upside makes this a complete draw for me a month or so out.
The elite players are always going to matter most. It does not mater what kind they are. But each series has this subplot which is the battle of the role players.
DDV+NAW got whooped by Dort+Caruso+Wallace. That OKC trio has saved the Thunder this playoffs and provided extreme value. Even if you don’t think VJ is a star, this player type is extremely valuable. You need them and you need them to play well.
DDV+NAW got whooped by Dort+Caruso+Wallace. That OKC trio has saved the Thunder this playoffs and provided extreme value. Even if you don’t think VJ is a star, this player type is extremely valuable. You need them and you need them to play well.
I just think VJ isn’t a primary ball handler. IMO his best role would be off ball pg / good positional size defensively like Derrick White. Even then White is a good passer, makes floaters, and is decent in pnr.
I’m ok with VJ but feel like he’s a piece not a home run (maybe that’s ok).
I’m ok with VJ but feel like he’s a piece not a home run (maybe that’s ok).
IDK, Im just wary of picking an average sized 2 guard for the reason that he is good at defense.
I think the main reason no one is really considering Fears is because we want to believe in Collier.
Halliburton, Brunson, Edwards, and SGA are all players who aren’t exactly how you would have imagined them in college. You do need to apply some imagination to these prospects. Players change, and unless you’re a Flagg/Harper level prospect (sometimes even if you are) it will require a lot of change and development to get there.
If the Jazz ultimately initiate from the wing, then it's okay to play someone like VJ at the 1. The Jazz need to decide how they envision their offense working. The same could be said about playing Keyonte at the 1.