No, it’s really the efficiency for me. @KqWIN said yesterday that Fears scores easily but that is more worrisome to me that his numbers are horrendous.
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His efficiency is good because the shots he takes are good.
Well, and he's an uber athlete. I think we are reading into combine stats way more than we should. It's 2025, we have the video and can watch how a guy plays athletically. Tre may test as well or better but between he and VJ, VJ "played" more athletic in games.
PS, Im softening on Tre a lot but thats for another post.
His efficiency isn’t that good though that’s the thing. Terrible FG% overall and terrible 3PT%. He really should have taken a lot less threes than he did.
Compare his to someone like Tre and I’d rather have his shot diet and efficiency over Fears.
Does FG% and 3FG% mean more to the scoreboard than TS%?
If I had to guess, I'd guess that the Jazz really want Tre, but they're not confident he gets to 5 and they're not confident they can make a reasonable deal with Philly. If the Jazz have doubts about Ace, as some teams allegedly do, that brings Fears into the discussion as Plan B.
One thing I think is very encouraging is his FTr for sure. His Rim % isn’t great either though. It’s just a tough sell to me.
Well, I'm not going to have a TS% debate in the year of 2025. If we're speaking about their efficiency this past season, to me that is measured by their TS%. If you've decided the FG% and 3FG% is more important, I can't change your opinion on that.
But I still think it's still an open ended question as to which translates more, making the shots or getting the efficient shots. I'd say efficiency is a concern for both players to some extent, it's just that Tre's is related to his shot distribution and Fears' is related to his shot making.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Can’t we buy him out?
My thinking is if he can just become a slightly below average shooter he has a chance to be pretty good. Collier can get wherever he wants. If he improves his shot he could be damn near impossible to guard and really make the offense that much better with how he can make the players around him better.
Where did I say that at all? His TS% is inflated by the amount of free-throws he took and made. That’s why I brought up his FTr. That is not the all end be all. You don’t take someone in the top-5 just because they have a decent TS%.
Buy out Paul George at $160M? Well, it's not my money, but that's just a horrific cost to move up in a draft. I can't imagine the Jazz would entertain that as a favor to Philly and Paul George.
Usually buyouts are for half a season after the trade deadline.
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I would be surprised if Fears isnt a good shooter. His jumper looks pretty clean to me.
It's because you said his efficiency is bad on the basis of his FG% and 3FG%. You chose to use those numbers to define his efficiency.
As for myself, I did not say TS% is the end all be all, I simply said it is more important to me than FG% and 3FG%. In terms of measuring efficiency, it is strictly better than using those two numbers.
That’s fine. I just think it’s inflated. If it translates that would be very good for Fears.
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Well, if he gets fouled at the rim, its no longer a shot attempt. Thus it won't be reflected in the Rim%. I believe that is how the data is recorded, correct me if I'm wrong.
The 3FG% is bad because he takes ambitious step back 3s from way beyond college and even beyond nba range. He is trying to incorporate it into his game. This is a player that is actively growing his shot selection, stretching his range beyond even the normal NBA 3 range.
If Fears were to curate his shot selection, to 3s just at the college line, and only catch and shoots, the percentage would be much better. A guy like Kon takes less ambitious, safer 3s and his shooting numbers reflect that. If you asked most people who is the better shooter, Fears or Kon, everyone would say Kon easily and I would say Kon too but I don't think the gap is that large. Its just that Fears wants to be a superstar guard (his own words in an interview) in the NBA and has decided to add difficult 3 point shot making off the dribble to his arsenal.
Fears shot a lot of unassisted, off-the-dribble jumpers. No one is expecting an 18 y.o. to be efficient on those. The 52% finishing at the rim is a fair concern, but should be fixable with coaching. He needs to get his percentage up to the mid-60s. Fears isn't a sure thing, but he's a reasonable risk/reward play
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VJ had a similar TS% as Fears and if you believe Fears took easier or better shots isn’t that worrisome?
seattlejazzfan
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basically everything that one would have said about collier coming out of college - with near exact height/length. we got collier at 29
seattlejazzfan
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he's duplicative of collier but not as good of a playmaker.