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Bodhi said:
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I just got done watching film where he was repeatedly getting bumped off his spot and at times by small Eurpoean guards. Saying he is unplayable was maybe the wrong words, but to act like his strength isn't going to be an issue for a bit is not realistic either. It would be easier for him to be on the court if his skill level was higher, but he's got a ways to go there as well.

I love his potential, and can see the vision, but it feels like there have been other guys like him that don't end up doing much in the league because the skill and or strength never develop as needed.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
I just got done watching film where he was repeatedly getting bumped off his spot and at times by small Eurpoean guards. Saying he is unplayable was maybe the wrong words, but to act like his strength isn't going to be an issue for a bit is not realistic either. It would be easier for him to be on the court if his skill level was higher, but he's got a ways to go there as well.

I love his potential, and can see the vision, but it feels like there have been other guys like him that don't end up doing much in the league because the skill and or strength never develop as needed.
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I would just echo what Cy said, and thats that he would be coming on to one of the worst teams in the league if we drafted him and there certainly would be a carve out to get him minutes. Also, he's barely 18 playing in a grown mans league right now. I think you're underselling even his current production at a higher level. He is playable on a bad Jazz team this coming season, IMO.

But it would be a longer burn with him for sure. That's why his age is such a positive.
 
It's been mentioned before, but there has been discussion about the added importance of the possession battle. I decided to make a quick metric that I'm calling, "possessions added" which is simply Offensive Rebounds + Steals - Turnovers (All per 36 minutes). Here are the top 3 and bottom 3 performers for this metric for each position:

Guards:
Top
VJ - 2.4
Jase - 0.9
Coward - 0.5
Bottom
Traore - -2.2
Demin - -1.9
Sears - -1.5

Forwards:
Top
Asa - 3.9
Toohey - 2.3
Fleming - 2.3
Bottom
Watkins - -0.5
McNeeley - -0.5
Wolf - -0.3

Centers
Top
Broome - 3.6
Zikarsky - 3.5
Khaman - 3.5
Bottom
Yang - 0.8
Goldin - 1.0
Raynaud - 1.2
 
Bodhi said:
I would just echo what Cy said, and thats that he would be coming on to one of the worst teams in the league if we drafted him and there certainly would be a carve out to get him minutes. Also, he's barely 18 playing in a grown mans league right now. I think you're underselling even his current production at a higher level. He is playable on a bad Jazz team this coming season, IMO.

But it would be a longer burn with him for sure. That's why his age is such a positive.
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I don't disagree with that at all, and even clarified in a different post something similar.
 
BPM can be a little funky at the college level, but Coward's -0.6 DBPM against piss poor competition is alarming. I get a little worried that we talk about his interviews and his shoulders more than we talk about how he plays basketball.
 
Honestly, the Spurs dont need Castle, Fox, and Harper. It is silly.

They SHOULD be trying to move maximize the 2nd pick in a trade OR move 1 of the 3 guards OR draft a different player type.

I think Lauri is one of probably 3 - 4 All Stars that could be available. Trae, Zion, Lauri, and Durant are others. Durant is on the wrong side of 36. Zion is a gamble. Trae doesn't fit with the Spurs. Giannis is a no brainer for the Spurs but I doubt he is available.
 
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SoberasHotRod said:
It's been mentioned before, but there has been discussion about the added importance of the possession battle. I decided to make a quick metric that I'm calling, "possessions added" which is simply Offensive Rebounds + Steals - Turnovers (All per 36 minutes). Here are the top 3 and bottom 3 performers for this metric for each position:

Guards:
Top
VJ - 2.4
Jase - 0.9
Coward - 0.5
Bottom
Traore - -2.2
Demin - -1.9
Sears - -1.5

Forwards:
Top
Asa - 3.9
Toohey - 2.3
Fleming - 2.3
Bottom
Watkins - -0.5
McNeeley - -0.5
Wolf - -0.3

Centers
Top
Broome - 3.6
Zikarsky - 3.5
Khaman - 3.5
Bottom
Yang - 0.8
Goldin - 1.0
Raynaud - 1.2
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Still think Asa is a bit underrated just based on his sheer production. Probably the best Freshman in the SEC this year on a per minute basis.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
I just got done watching film where he was repeatedly getting bumped off his spot and at times by small Eurpoean guards. Saying he is unplayable was maybe the wrong words, but to act like his strength isn't going to be an issue for a bit is not realistic either. It would be easier for him to be on the court if his skill level was higher, but he's got a ways to go there as well.

I love his potential, and can see the vision, but it feels like there have been other guys like him that don't end up doing much in the league because the skill and or strength never develop as needed.
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I just don't see his frame as an issue. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think he can add weight/strength fine and he already plays stronger than his weight.
 
KqWIN said:
BPM can be a little funky at the college level, but Coward's -0.6 DBPM against piss poor competition is alarming. I get a little worried that we talk about his interviews and his shoulders more than we talk about how he plays basketball.
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It's not though. The highest DBPM on his team that season was -0.2
 
HadAnEffectHere said:
Or he's just being smart because there's a bunch of teams that could trade up? This is an insane jump.
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So he is risking injury to impress teams for what reason exactly? If he's locked in at 2 regardless of any scenario he has no motivation to do more workouts unless he specifically wants the teams to trade up for him instead of going to SA.
 
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