Following Potential 2025 Draftees

[Basketball Novice]

Sam Vecenie's Draft Guide has Ace at 6 and The Ringer's Draft Guide has Ace at 5. I think Ace is dropping a bit and will be an option at 5. I know in the last 2 forum Mock Drafts, Ace has been the pick.

Is he our guy at 5 or are there some hesitation/doubts about him?

 

[Tremendous Upside]

I've always said that VJ's final form in the NBA is a combo guard with legit star potential.

No reason why he can't play the point. Not every "PG" has to be cut from the exact same cloth. The time of "floor generals" is over anyway.

 

[mhindy]

I get the concern with Ace, but he has a skill set and measurement combo you're not usually going to get a shot at outside the top 5.

Would be pretty bummed to take someone like Knueppel over him.

 

[Chargers Jazz Angels]

I'm ready with the top of my board....
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1. Flagg
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2. Dylan Harper
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3. Tre Johnson
4. Ace Bailey
5. Jeremiah Fears
6. VJ Edgecombe
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7. Jase Richardson
8. Noah Essengue
9. Kon Knueppel
10. Cedric Coward
11. Kasparas Jakucionas
12. CMB
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13. Nolan Traore
14. Walter Clayton Jr
15. Carter Bryant
16. Will Riley
17. Derik Queen
....

Something like this. I will be adding more as I watch more
Disclaimer - this is with minimal tape watching of the players past 10 or thereabout so take with a bucket of salt.

No Demin?

 

[HermanG]

I dont know if anyone has mentioned Aniwaniwa Tait-Jones here. He is old af and not a 3 point shooter but what if we draft him in the 2nd round and try and see if his game translates? Could be a big time value swing... especially since we can probably give him some decent burn against NBA competition.

6'6 guard with 6'11 wingspan
elite craftiness and decent athleticism
great BBIQ and touch
19.1 PPG with just 10.7 FGA (got to the line at an incredible rate with 8.5 FTA)
70.7% finishing at the rim and 57.6% FG (64.9 TS%)
7.8 WS and 10.0 BPM
25.7 AST% and 12.1 TO%

He is sort of a slasher guard which is not very fashionable, but he is damn good at that.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_dAHpeays0

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

I've always said that VJ's final form in the NBA is a combo guard with legit star potential.

No reason why he can't play the point. Not every "PG" has to be cut from the exact same cloth. The time of "floor generals" is over anyway.

Whether there are no more floor generals or not he srill needs to be a competent ball handler which he is not, no wiggle no creation off the dribble and no separation and has to give up the ball with any kind of ball pressure how do you not see this? Stop watching highlights. I mean this is probably what got Cody Williams drafted 10th.

 

[kabenac]

If Ainge thinks he can get who he wants at 8 we ought to make a deal with Brooklyn. There are so many options and I bet he will be getting calls for #5 as Bailey/Tre/V.J. is widely considered better than who comes next.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I have no issue with VJ at 5.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Big Bump for Riley on my latest big board.

1. Flagg​
2. Harper​
3. Ace​
4. Tre​
5. Yang​
6. Fears​
7. VJ​
8. Kon​
9. Fleming​
10. Beringer​
11. Raynaud​
12. CMB​
13. Maluach​
14. Riley​
15. Traore​
16. Demin​
17. Coward​
18. Essengue​
19. Bryant​
20. Penda​
21. Queen​
22. Kasparas​
23. Jase​
24. Sorber​
25. McNeely​
26. Powell​
27. Wolf​
28. Clayton Jr​
29. Clifford​
30. Hugo​

Update to board: Kon over VJ, Essengue bumped to 18. Queen dropped to 21.

 

[Bodhi]

And he might deserve that. Just not exactly my cup of tea as far as prospects go. But even though he’s not the prospect I’m drawn to I’ll still have him really high, which is a testament to just how good of a shooter/scorer he is.

This is my exact sentiment on Tre.

 

[stitches]

No Demin?

Haven't watched him yet. I know he's quite controversial among draftniks. Some love him, some not so much...

 

[seattlejazzfan]

I dont know if anyone has mentioned Aniwaniwa Tait-Jones here. He is old af and not a 3 point shooter but what if we draft him in the 2nd round and try and see if his game translates? Could be a big time value swing... especially since we can probably give him some decent burn against NBA competition.

6'6 guard with 6'11 wingspan
elite craftiness and decent athleticism
great BBIQ and touch
19.1 PPG with just 10.7 FGA (got to the line at an incredible rate with 8.5 FTA)
70.7% finishing at the rim and 57.6% FG (64.9 TS%)
7.8 WS and 10.0 BPM
25.7 AST% and 12.1 TO%

He is sort of a slasher guard which is not very fashionable, but he is damn good at that.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_dAHpeays0

did he ever get an official measurement? it doesn't look like he was at the combine. did he get measured at Portsmouth or something? i ask because he doesn't look 6'6" and for a white guy to have such a difference in height and wingspan with be almost unprecedented so i'm not believing the wingspan measurement for a second.

 

[rippimpc]

Locke had me thinking no pgs are 6’2” and below. But about 50% are according to ChatGPT (not entirely accurate but decent ball park).

2024–25 NBA Starting Point Guards (by team)

East:

1. Atlanta – Trae Young, 6′1″
2. Boston – Derrick White, 6′4″
3. Brooklyn – D’Angelo Russell, 6′3″
4. Charlotte – K.J. Simpson, 6′0″
5. Chicago – Tre Jones, 6′1″ (based on games played)
6. Cleveland – Likely Darius Garland, 6′1″ (not in depth chart snippet)
7. Detroit – Likely Cade Cunningham, 6′5″ (roster leader at PG)
8. Indiana – Tyrese Haliburton, 6′5″
9. Miami – Likely Kyle Lowry, 6′0″ or Tyler Herro shifted roles, but roster ambiguous
10. Milwaukee – Probably Damian Lillard, 6′2″
11. New York – Jalen Brunson, 6′2″
12. Orlando – Likely Cole Anthony or Markelle Fultz, both around 6′3″
13. Philadelphia – Probably Tyrese Maxey, 6′2″
14. Toronto – Likely Fred VanVleet, 6′1″
15. Washington – Jordan Poole, 6′4″

West:

1. Dallas – Luka Dončić, 6′7″
2. Denver – Likely Jamal Murray, 6′2″
3. Golden State – Likely Stephen Curry, 6′2″
4. Houston – Probably Jalen Green or Fred VanVleet if traded; roster uncertain
5. LA Clippers – Likely Russell Westbrook or John Wall, both ~6′2″
6. LA Lakers – Likely Russell Westbrook if acquired, again 6′3″
7. Memphis – Likely Ja Morant, 6′2″
8. Minnesota – Likely Mike Conley, 6′1″
9. New Orleans – *Likely CJ McCollum, 6′3″ *
10. OKC – Shai Gilgeous‑Alexander, 6′6″
11. Orlando already in East
12. Phoenix – Tyus Jones, 6′1″
13. Portland – Likely Scoot Henderson or Shaedon Sharpe, both rookies ~6′4″
14. Sacramento – Likely De’Aaron Fox, 6′3″
15. San Antonio – Straight Malcolm Miller? Or Tre Jones, uncertain

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Locke had me thinking no pgs are 6’2” and below. But about 50% are according to ChatGPT (not entirely accurate but decent ball park).

2024–25 NBA Starting Point Guards (by team)

East:

1. Atlanta – Trae Young, 6′1″
2. Boston – Derrick White, 6′4″
3. Brooklyn – D’Angelo Russell, 6′3″
4. Charlotte – K.J. Simpson, 6′0″
5. Chicago – Tre Jones, 6′1″ (based on games played)
6. Cleveland – Likely Darius Garland, 6′1″ (not in depth chart snippet)
7. Detroit – Likely Cade Cunningham, 6′5″ (roster leader at PG)
8. Indiana – Tyrese Haliburton, 6′5″
9. Miami – Likely Kyle Lowry, 6′0″ or Tyler Herro shifted roles, but roster ambiguous
10. Milwaukee – Probably Damian Lillard, 6′2″
11. New York – Jalen Brunson, 6′2″
12. Orlando – Likely Cole Anthony or Markelle Fultz, both around 6′3″
13. Philadelphia – Probably Tyrese Maxey, 6′2″
14. Toronto – Likely Fred VanVleet, 6′1″
15. Washington – Jordan Poole, 6′4″

West:

1. Dallas – Luka Dončić, 6′7″
2. Denver – Likely Jamal Murray, 6′2″
3. Golden State – Likely Stephen Curry, 6′2″
4. Houston – Probably Jalen Green or Fred VanVleet if traded; roster uncertain
5. LA Clippers – Likely Russell Westbrook or John Wall, both ~6′2″
6. LA Lakers – Likely Russell Westbrook if acquired, again 6′3″
7. Memphis – Likely Ja Morant, 6′2″
8. Minnesota – Likely Mike Conley, 6′1″
9. New Orleans – *Likely CJ McCollum, 6′3″ *
10. OKC – Shai Gilgeous‑Alexander, 6′6″
11. Orlando already in East
12. Phoenix – Tyus Jones, 6′1″
13. Portland – Likely Scoot Henderson or Shaedon Sharpe, both rookies ~6′4″
14. Sacramento – Likely De’Aaron Fox, 6′3″
15. San Antonio – Straight Malcolm Miller? Or Tre Jones, uncertain

AI isnt your friend.

 

[HermanG]

I have no issue with VJ at 5.

I would be very happy getting him.. but I think he is the most likely of the 3 to be gone by then.

Fits in Philly and Charlotte, albeit I dont think either of those two would plan on maximizing him as an on-ball player.

 

[rippimpc]

AI isnt your friend.

I’m lazy lol

That said I went into the wrong field


View: https://x.com/devahaz/status/1932459327241031824?s=42

 

[KqWIN]

Yeah….hard to see CHO passing on VJ at 4. But they did pull a surprise laser year.

 

[HermanG]

did he ever get an official measurement? it doesn't look like he was at the combine. did he get measured at Portsmouth or something? i ask because he doesn't look 6'6" and for a white guy to have such a difference in height and wingspan with be almost unprecedented so i'm not believing the wingspan measurement for a second.

I dont think the measure is official.

 

[KqWIN]

New comparisons:

Tre -> SGA
VJ -> RWB
Kon -> Luka
Ace -> Cade

Everybody is PG

 

[rippimpc]

New comparisons:

Tre -> SGA
VJ -> RWB
Kon -> Luka
Ace -> Cade

Everybody is PG

This is the analysis I come here for.