Yeah, I'm sure your friends are totally for Hamas decapitating Jews. Brilliant. I guarantee you wouldn't say any of this to the Jews in your city. None of you would.
No seriously you go tell tell the Jews in your city what you told me. Go up to your Jew friends and say . And I quote "A dead baby is a dead baby, through an act of violence denial of clean water and proper medical care, the dead are dead and know no better.".
Yeah, I'm the one justifying terrorism.
Can you provide some? Find me Jews that are not openly upset about this terrorist attack. Countries all over the globe are condemning this.
Yeah sure
Sounds like justification to me. Like an eye for an eye. Or you know, "f* around and find out".
It's not what people are saying, no, if that's an honest question. It's just being stated here that while the details of this single event are really sickening, this latest round of violence hasn't happened in a vacuum. And we're about to see equally sickening violence inflicted upon the residents of Gaza. Israel and Palestine hate each other-- like, hate in the way you and I cannot and hopefully never will comprehend the word-- and have developed methods of hurting one another that make de-escalation impossible. Western society, which is built on the Judeo-Christian ethic, will always justify Israel as the chicken that came before the egg, if only subconsciously. So if Israel drips steady violence on Gaza for decades, forcing Palestinians to live in sub-human conditions, occasionally razing a city block and every living thing in it to prove a point, then we Westerners will casually say, "they probably deserved it, the animals". And of course, when the comparatively far less-sophisticated militant arm of Hamas does what they just did, we'll say, "they deserve whatever they get, the animals". You just don't get what's going on, Steak, and you want to choose Israel because of where and when you live, and because this is fresh and in front of you. At some point, one side has got to say to the other, "I'm done with all of this", and the other side has to say, "Yeah, me too". It is literally the only way, unless the world is okay with one side extinguishing the other utterly. But that peace will never happen, because they are both beyond radicalized, and incapable of seeing anything but red and red and red.
Much of it driven by X:
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Well thought out and great post. I'd argue that not one of people I'm referring to has said how sickening this act is they have went straight to the "eye for an eye" argument. For example "a dead baby is a dead baby"... To me there is a tremendous difference between targeting a baby and chopping it's poor head off then say cutting off food supply to an area that just invaded and cut babies heads off intentionally, raped underage girls, sprawled those girls out on display as badges naked and bleeding profusely out of their vaginas. What should Israel do in this manner? Publicly executing other teenage girls. Burning old people alive for laughs. Sure innocent babies and children are dying all over the world in needless conflicts but they are not being directly targeted then raped and put like trophies. I personally think I understand completely what's going on, I think it's others who do not understand the sheer magnitude of this terrorist attack. A vast majority of the world agrees with me as I will show below.
I'm extremely sincere unlike you who just comes into this thread squarely to talk s* on me. Who's the rotten troll here? I just spent a good chunk of time on my post above backing up where I am coming from. I have spent more time on that one post than you have spent on any serious matter in this entire forum... ever. You on the other hand come onto a very very serious topic and use it to push nothing but ad hominem anger and vitriol towards another poster. Talk about the lack of basic human decency. This is a very serious thread and you and CY want to turn into a hate fest on me. Absolutely grotesque. I ask the rest of the group to not fall for this. I know many do not like my stances but I am 100% sincere. Call me stupid, call me names, go ahead and ignore me, I don't care but I am honest with my opinions outside of the occasions I was pushing buttons and responding in kind to mean attacks like this. I own that but I didn't do that here. This is nothing to make light of like log and his followers.
What you say sounds reasonable and balanced to those not knowledgeable on the situation.
which they shelled in 2014. That tends to reduce the efficiency a mite.
Arabs are not helpless morons contrary to your borderline racist attempts to cast them in that mold. Fixing things and building new things is within their capability. The PA government in the West Bank knows what they are talking about when they say the Gaza power station is in the state it is because of Hamas.
