Fosto
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If he doesn't, he'd still be a good player with a major flaw. Can't have it all.
Game Thread Jan 18, 2024 07:00PM MT: Jazz vs. Thunder
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If he doesn't, he'd still be a good player with a major flaw. Can't have it all.
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Last night with 2:23 left in the 4th, right before the intentional foul on Kessler that absolutely destroyed us, OKC win probability was 88%.
After Kessler went 1 of 2 from the line OKC win probability jumped all the way up to 88.9%! Lol.
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After Kessler went 1 of 2 from the line OKC win probability jumped all the way up to 88.9%! Lol.
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GVC
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That's including transition and putbacks. So far this season, teams are averaging a hair less than 1 point per halfcourt possession. As mentioned by others, the impact of the fouls themselves also has to be considered.
Sure, situationally, Kessler's free throw shooting is a problem, but the current alternative of playing John Collins has also been a problem in the vast majority of situations.
Of course, Kessler needs to work on his free throw shooting, but the problem is being grossly overstated by a few posters in this thread.
Can you give examples of his bad D?
75-80% isn't too bad really. Rudy is still down in the low 60's though.
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Just saw this. Yeah Mailman was fine and decent under pressure.
I'm going to wait for you to either admit you were wrong or come up with some actual proof that Key's defense was an "affront to basketball". Ball's in your court bro. Are you man enough to admit you're wrong or are you going to keep talking out your ***? Because if you're going to claim he deserves to be benched you should at least be able to give some examples of his D negatively impacting us last night and not just claim he was slow to get back and stood around, which are not the case either.
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Fosto
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I'm way too lazy to go through the game's footage and analyze individual plays, sorry. I know what I saw though, and I wish we just played Dunn or even THT instead. He is often the worst player in the rotation though, by far and wide, so I'm not sure why it's so hard to believe he was bad last night.
I like you Fosto, but if someone is going to claim he was terrible they should probably be able to back it up when called on it. I was interested in finding out since my first instinct was that his game was subpar but part of that was people dissing him in this thread. So I took the time to watch every second of his game and even broke it down by possession. He gave up one bucket all night. He had several stops. He can basically only control his assignment, right? Again if someone wants to come up with something more concrete than their gut feeling I'm all ears.
framer
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It is a lot easier to get to get the 10% when you start at 50%. Honestly, the biggest thing he could do is take more of them in game situations to get better. All these guys can shoot in an empty gym, it is mostly a mental thing.
Fosto
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Even disregarding his defense, he scored 3 points on 5 shots, turned the ball over twice (versus two assists), and exited the game with -9 +/- in 14 minutes.
He didn't have a great game offensively for sure. But he did make several nice wide-open setups for teammates who missed their shots. Looking at his +/- as a indicator of his play isn't really fair since the rest of the team were getting scored on quite a bit while he was out there. He had some nice stops on D and he got scored on once all night by his man, a SGA mid range jumper. He did have two turnovers but he also contributed to two OKC turnovers.