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The Thriller

The Thriller

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Who the hell is giving him advice?

As if his approval rating needed more help to be destroyed. What the hell is he thinking? Even if he's right, this is going to piss off a lot more people and lose a ton more votes than not. Building/expanding the mosque near ground zero is going to tick off people from both sides of the aisle. Even Harry Reid opposes it.

What the hell is Obama thinking? What is to be gained by this?
 
You're asking the king of deceit politics to become even more political just to save face? The guy is never going to have a high approval rating again unless a war happens and he comes out of it looking like a leader. What does he care at this point about that? In fact, I'm pretty sure he has already stated that he doesn't care if he is a one term president as long as he gets to implement his agenda along the way.
 
Duck Rodgers said:
You're asking the king of deceit politics to become even more political just to save face? The guy is never going to have a high approval rating again unless a war happens and he comes out of it looking like a leader. What does he care at this point about that? In fact, I'm pretty sure he has already stated that he doesn't care if he is a one term president as long as he gets to implement his agenda along the way.
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And his agenda is to build a mosque near 9/11 so the Muslims can invade together with the Zerg and suck out our brains using straws? Only farm people wearing tin foil hats will be saved?

Damn you Obama, Damn you to hell!

Seriously, what's to be gained by this? The Muslim vote in this country doesn't matter. Terrorists aren't going to be deterred by this. Muslims outside of our country won't care if it's allowed (though may be a little miffed if it isn't. But overall they have bigger issues at stake, like making a living).

Most Americans will just be ticked off.

There's nothing to gain by insisting that they be allowed to build their mosque near ground zero.
 
Obama has a lot of influential, wealthy muslim homeys who have given him great personal support (such as paying his way through law school) who he has to keep favor with, eh?
 
Obama explicitly refused to support or condemn building the mosque. He said our basic Constitutional freedoms required us to allow it to be built. I have seen no reasonable argument otherwise.
 
The Thriller said:
And his agenda is to build a mosque near 9/11 so the Muslims can invade together with the Zerg and suck out our brains using straws? Only farm people wearing tin foil hats will be saved?

Damn you Obama, Damn you to hell!

Seriously, what's to be gained by this? The Muslim vote in this country doesn't matter. Terrorists aren't going to be deterred by this. Muslims outside of our country won't care if it's allowed (though may be a little miffed if it isn't. But overall they have bigger issues at stake, like making a living).

Most Americans will just be ticked off.

There's nothing to gain by insisting that they be allowed to build their mosque near ground zero.
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He never insisted they be allowed to build the mosque near ground zero. Besides that, how near is too near?

Popular opinion or not Obama is 100% right on this one. We don't determine where religious structures can and can't be built. That's just stupid, no matter what religion they represent.
 
"In an appearance on the New York-produced "Inside City Hall" television show, octogenarian Harlem lawyer Percy Sutton – whose clients included Malcolm X – explained that Islamic radical Khalid Abdullah Tariq al-Mansour, "one of the world's wealthiest men," asked him to write a letter of recommendation to Harvard Law School for then relatively unknown Barack Obama.

In the video, Sutton says he was introduced to Obama by al-Mansour, a Saudi citizen, who "was then raising money" for Obama." Sutton says al-Mansour told him about Obama, saying in a letter, "There's a young man that has applied to Harvard. I know that you have a few friends left there because you used to go up there to speak. Would you please write a letter in support of him?"

Video of Percy telling the story here, eh?: https://www.wnd.com/?pageId=104684
 
One thing ya gotta respect about Obama, eh? He chooses his friends very carefully:

In his 1995 memoir Dreams from My Father, Obama recalls the following about his days at Occidental College:

"To avoid being mistaken for a sellout,I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos.The Marxist Professors and the structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets.We smoked cigarettes and wore leather jackets. At night,in the dorms,we discussed neocolonialism, [the socialist, anti-colonialist revolutionary] Franz Fanon,Eurocentrism,and patriarchy. When we ground out our cigarettes in the hallway carpet or set our stereos so loud that the walls began to shake, we were resisting bourgeois society's stifling constraints. We weren't indifferent or careless or insecure. We were alienated."


That's how I know me and Barry is homeys, see? I'm alienated too! Not to even mention that I like to smoke cigarettes then grind them out on someone else's carpet, wear leather jackets, and hang with Marxist Professors, structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets.
 
One Brow said:
Obama explicitly refused to support or condemn building the mosque. He said our basic Constitutional freedoms required us to allow it to be built. I have seen no reasonable argument otherwise.
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I'm not trying to say that it isn't constitutional. all I'm focusing on is this isn't going to score any points for approval. No one of significance agrees with the President on this one. I think this is going to hurt...
 
The Thriller said:
I'm not trying to say that it isn't constitutional. all I'm focusing on is this isn't going to score any points for approval. No one of significance agrees with the President on this one. I think this is going to hurt...
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So it's better to lie in order to make people happy than to stand behind the truth and on the side of what's right? Yeah, that'll score him big points. If only he would oppose the building of this mosque I would vote for him in 2012.
 
Gameface said:
So it's better to lie...
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I don't never recommends lyin, my own damn self, eh, Game. Soon as ya start to lyin to the cops, who knows, they could prove ya wrong, then use yo lyin aginst ya, ya know? I just don't NEVER fess up, that's all.
 
Gameface said:
So it's better to lie in order to make people happy than to stand behind the truth and on the side of what's right? Yeah, that'll score him big points. If only he would oppose the building of this mosque I would vote for him in 2012.
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Uh? Who said anything about lying?

Do you really think that standing up for "freedom" and allowing that Mosque to be built will score him more points in the United States of America than if he told them no?
 
The Thriller said:
Uh? Who said anything about lying?

Do you really think that standing up for "freedom" and allowing that Mosque to be built will score him more points in the United States of America than if he told them no?
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Huh? The "truth" is that according to our constitution, according to what is "right" and according to the principles of freedom, liberty and religious tolerance, we shouldn't ban people from building religious structures on private property as long as it doesn't violate local ordinances or zoning requirements.

Besides that you seem to be terribly confused. Obama made a statement based on the principle that people can build any brand of religious institution on private property. The ability for this mosque to be built did not hinge on his approval. His comments were certainly related to the issue created by this particular mosque, but not related to his feelings about the building of this particular mosque. Again, Obama has no role in deciding if this mosque is built or not. He did not make a "decision" to allow it to be built. You understand that, right?

This may hurt his standing among simpletons and religious bigots. If that is what makes up the majority of voters then we have much worse problems than a moasque being built several blocks from the site of one of our nations greatest tragedies.
 
Frankly, other than shock tactics, I've yet to see anyone explain why that mosque should not be built.
 
I'd rather have a president say what he felt was right rather then what he felt would score him political points.
 
I don't understand why Obama felt the need to comment about this in the first place. He is starting to get a track record of speaking stupidly before he has the chance to think about what he is saying. To me it's not a matter of should the mosque be built or not. It's a matter of the president figuring out when to speak and when to hold his tongue. As the original poster said, what was the purpose behind speaking out in favor? For me personally it comes down to whether or not it is true that Muslims build mosques on places they have conquered. If that is true, then this is a very hurtful act towards those who lost loved ones in the attacks. If it's not true then build away.
 
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