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So does anyone know what Stoked means by non-racist "white pride" yet?

I think he's talking about bread.

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So does anyone know what Stoked means by non-racist "white pride" yet?

Probably ancestry, but I'm sure that's not an acceptable reasoning because it's not as old as black ancestry, so the younger race is racist for claiming heritage that doesn't pay homage to the older, blacker race.

Is that what you were getting at?
 
I think you've grossly misrepresented the Black Pride 'movement.' I would suggest to you that it is a diverse movement with diverse messages, including humanistic ideals such as individual and group pride and rejection of shame, but also including baser emotions, such as deviance against perceived oppressors and messages of intolerance and hate. It's understandable for those who feel oppressed to have feelings of hate, or other strong negative emotions, toward their oppressors. Disappointing but understandable. You, however, have chosen to focus on that part of the movement that fits your preconceived narrative. That the Black Pride movement includes many, many reasonable, rational people with positive messages should be seen as a triumph of sorts, yet all you can see, it seems, is the negative. Why is that?

First I would like to point out that I have already said that the emotions are understandable in this thread.

Second you have hit the nail on the head when you referred to humanistic ideals. Such ideals make a pride movement not only superfluous but counter productive. A pride movement attracts and to some level validates the nastier elements. It is my belief that we can address and resolve racial issues without resorting to divisional tactics, charged rhetoric, and baser emotions. A young black man does not need me to support his pride he only needs me to support his rights and his dignity.

In the post that you quoted I was not trying to say that all people within the black pride movement feel that way but that it is a breeding ground for those kind of attitudes.

That's the problem, society feels that it absolutely has to equate white pride with racism.That they cannot be seperated. I reject that they are one and the same. I flat out reject that white pride has to be about racism. No matter how some groups, on both sides of the fence, wish to paint it so. I truly feel like you already knew I was saying this and are trying to spin.
I agree that there are social beliefs and opinions that should be rejected by society. Such as racist beliefs.

My previous posts in response to those defending black pride apply to white pride as well.

Put out two identical resumes, except for the name, on a job site. Give one of the the fist name of DeMare, or any similar name culturally associated with black people, and another a name associated with white people, say Bradley. Make sure to check the EEOC boxes appropriately. Get back to me on the difference in the response level, and then tell me there is no such thing as white privilege.

The exclusion of blacks is of benefit to no one. There is plenty of room and resources in America for the 13% of the population that is black to have the same quality of life as white people. It is racism towards blacks not privilege for whites.
 
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Put out two identical resumes, except for the name, on a job site. Give one of the the fist name of DeMare, or any similar name culturally associated with black people, and another a name associated with white people, say Bradley. Make sure to check the EEOC boxes appropriately. Get back to me on the difference in the response level, and then tell me there is no such thing as white privilege.

Oh, so you've seen that anecdotal video too, huh? On the inner webz = truth.
 
Oh, so you've seen that anecdotal video too, huh? On the inner webz = truth.

I've seen this described by several different people who tried it, as well as a study on the effect using various names. It's not like this is an expensive experiment. All it takes is time, the materials are free.

If you think the data we have is not reliable, do your own study. You keep talking about all the time you have.
 
I've seen this described by several different people who tried it, as well as a study on the effect using various names. It's not like this is an expensive experiment. All it takes is time, the materials are free.

If you think the data we have is not reliable, do your own study. You keep talking about all the time you have.

I think I'll pass. Simply put, I don't care. If it's really that big of a deal, then maybe black mothers should stop giving their kids prefixed names like LaNiqua, ShaRaquan, DeMarikwia, etc.







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I ran into a LaShavania Laquita before (pronounced La-Sha-Vain-Ya La-queeta - I made up the spelling obv). She was shouting it at the DMV over and over because of some problem with her license until a cop escorted her out for being disruptive. But now that I think of it, he was probably just racist.
 
I ran into a LaShavania Laquita before (pronounced La-Sha-Vain-Ya La-queeta - I made up the spelling obv). She was shouting it at the DMV over and over because of some problem with her license until a cop escorted her out for being disruptive. But now that I think of it, he was probably just racist.

You're not familiar with the Angry Black Woman narrative?
 
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