The Paths Forward From Here

[Handlogten's Heros]

These are the routes I see in front of the Jazz. Pick a preferred route. I think the route that most likely yields a title is the tank route but its also a bitter pill to swallow for a few years.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I would consolidate and try to trade for Quickley.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Maybe controversial, but if NYK was open to swapping IQ for Keyonte and a single first, I would probably take that.

Would think NYK would want to do a trade that would bring them more immediate help to fortify around Brunson though.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Keyonte + First for IQ.

Clarkson/KO for Moody

 

[Elizah Huge]

My preferred route is trading for some help for Lauri. This is WAY higher on my list than anything else.

If we don’t do that I would reluctantly trade Lauri and go full blown tank.

 

[sip]

Maybe controversial, but if NYK was open to swapping IQ for Keyonte and a single first, I would probably take that.

Good lord that is bad. I definitely wouldn't trade Key for the honor of giving IQ a massive contract but to throw in a 1st is comical. Offer the knicks Key for IQ straight up and they say yes immediately.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Good lord that is bad. I definitely wouldn't trade Key for the honor of giving IQ a massive contract but to throw in a 1st is comical. Offer the knicks Key for IQ straight up and they say yes immediately.

Yeah, there is no way they would say yes to that.

You have a really odd obsession with the potential of rookie contract players.

 

[sip]

Yeah, there is no way they would say yes to that.

You have a really odd obsession with the potential of rookie contract players.

Unfortunately you just have a lot of bad takes.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Unfortunately you just have a lot of bad takes.

I have bad takes?

You honestly think the Knicks would trade IQ for Keyonte straight up...... I doubt they would even do Keyonte/1st for IQ (that would have to be a deadline deal where they got nothing better that can help them immediately).

Like man, turn 2K off and look in the mirror.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Maybe controversial, but if NYK was open to swapping IQ for Keyonte and a single first, I would probably take that.

Would think NYK would want to do a trade that would bring them more immediate help to fortify around Brunson though.

Not sure either team would do it. Just in different spots. I think Key for IQ is more fair. I’d try to build a IQ trade around picks and vet players. I think it’d be more fungible for trades for them.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Not sure either team would do it. Just in different spots. I think Key for IQ is more fair. I’d try to build a IQ trade around picks and vet players. I think it’d be more fungible for trades for them.

How is Key for IQ straight up fair for the Knicks?

IQ is a 20+ PPG starter.

Keyonte would be pretty lucky to be IQ after 4 years.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I think Keyonte is nice and has a lot of potential, but I havent seen enough to call him a surefire bet to be a future top 10 PG. IQ is a top 10 PG once he gets starter minutes.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

How is Key for IQ straight up fair for the Knicks?

IQ is a 20+ PPG starter.

Keyonte would be pretty lucky to be IQ after 4 years.

I understand that but young players that show promise early and are playable have tremendous trade value. If NY is going to flip him later or keep him then the difference in salary of 20M adds to what they can get as far as on court value. Part of the reason they’d trade IQ is tax related so Keyonte helps.

I don’t think either team would do it though.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I understand that but young players that show promise early and are playable have tremendous trade value. If NY is going to flip him later or keep him then the difference in salary of 20M adds to what they can get as far as on court value. Part of the reason they’d trade IQ is tax related so Keyonte helps.

I don’t think either team would do it though.

I think Utah would do it in a heartbeat. Laughing to the bank if no picks have to be included.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I think Keyonte is nice and has a lot of potential, but I havent seen enough to call him a surefire bet to be a future top 10 PG. IQ is a top 10 PG once he gets starter minutes.

Right and IQ will be paid like that. He also may regress a bit when moving into the starting lineup. I don’t think it will happen but it’s possible.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Knicks are trying to win now, so trading for Keyonte in a straight up deal is a massive negative for them. Makes no sense unless they are getting a pick.

 

[KqWIN]

I don’t know why Key is being discussed in Quickley trades. Makes no sense for NYK. They will be looking for win now vets. KO, Sexton, and THT make a lot more sense depending on their preference and Fournier is easy matching salary.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Knicks are trying to win now, so trading for Keyonte in a straight up deal is a massive negative for them. Makes no sense unless they are getting a pick.

Right… which is why he’s not the piece to consider moving since it makes more sense for us to keep him and for them to get a more ready player.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Right… which is why he’s not the piece to consider moving since it makes more sense for us to keep him and for them to get a more ready player.

But if they get the pick, it could make sense for them. Maybe it's a 3 way deal or something.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

But if they get the pick, it could make sense for them. Maybe it's a 3 way deal or something.

We could send them a pick or two ourselves and keep Key. THT, Sexton, KO, Yurt would all be players they could use if they moved IQ. Add pick or picks to flavor. If the main draw is the picks then we’d rather keep Key.