The Rest of the Season Plan - Kind Of

[HermanG]

You take away Yurtseven’s non-guaranteed deal and replace that with Dunn’s cap hold. Add in cap hold for a top-10 pick plus the 26-28 pick plus an incomplete roster cap hold that puts us closer to 100M with about 41M of functional cap space. Lauri at max would take 17.2M of that for a R&E. Leaving us with essentially 24M or so. If we are able to get off of Clarkson’s 14M we can have max cap space.

Cap is 141. You figure capholds for Dunn and the picks or just empty roster spots… once you allocate the 17m+ for Lauri you are left with something in the neighborhood of 20M. No caphold for the 9/10th pick and you may be in the 25M range.

The Collins trade was just an unforced error and we were uncharacteristically impatient. All the upside was on the buy side so if you don’t get your price you walk away.

Thanks both. I'm cap/CBA handicapped who uses terms like QO when I mean offer sheet.

Cant be bothered to try and learn it properly, so I greatly appreciate when someone holds my hand.

 

[Hedda Gambler]

I’m 100% certain he has to make All-NBA this year to qualify for the 30% of the cap extension.

Nope, 30% is the max for players with 7 or more years of experience. The super max makes it possible to go to 35%, but Lauri can`t get it as you have to be on the team that drafted you or be traded while still on you first contract to qualify.

"Players with between 7-9 years of experience are eligible for a max contract worth 30 percent of the salary cap"

https://hoopshype.com/2018/10/21/nba-maximum-salary/

 

[Elizah Huge]

Nope, 30% is the max for players with 7 or more years of experience. The super max makes it possible to go to 35%, but Lauri can`t get it as you have to be on the team that drafted you or be traded while still on you first contract to qualify.

"Players with between 7-9 years of experience are eligible for a max contract worth 30 percent of the salary cap"

https://hoopshype.com/2018/10/21/nba-maximum-salary/

Utah Jazz F Lauri Markkanen Shooting for Supermax Contract - Inside the Jazz

All-Star Forward Lauri Markkanen’s big pay day is coming.

www.si.com

I saw the same thing on hoopshype but I read this article which made me think otherwise but now I think he’s actually wrong the more I look into it.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Nope, 30% is the max for players with 7 or more years of experience. The super max makes it possible to go to 35%, but Lauri can`t get it as you have to be on the team that drafted you or be traded while still on you first contract to qualify.

"Players with between 7-9 years of experience are eligible for a max contract worth 30 percent of the salary cap"

https://hoopshype.com/2018/10/21/nba-maximum-salary/

We don’t have to offer the 30% though we can offer 25%.

 

[Hedda Gambler]

We don’t have to offer the 30% though we can offer 25%.

We don`t have to offer anything. His agent will probably ask for 30% with max raises and we will start lower.

 

[Hedda Gambler]

Utah Jazz F Lauri Markkanen Shooting for Supermax Contract - Inside the Jazz

All-Star Forward Lauri Markkanen’s big pay day is coming.

www.si.com

I saw the same thing on hoopshype but I read this article which made me think otherwise but now I think he’s actually wrong the more I look into it.

He is right, This is from CBAFAQ:

"

23. What is the maximum salary a player can receive? Are there exceptions to the maximum salary?​

Here are the league-wide maximum salaries for the first season of a new contract:

Years in NBA1	Defined maximum salary	2017-18	2018-19	2019-20	2020-21	2021-22	2022-23
0 - 6	25% of cap	$24,773,250	$25,467,250	$27,285,000	$27,285,000	$28,103,500	$30,913,750
7 - 9	30% of cap	$29,727,900	$30,560,700	$32,742,000	$32,742,000	$33,724,200	$37,096,500
10+	35% of cap	$34,682,550	$35,654,150	$38,199,000	$38,199,000	$39,344,900	$43,279,250

"

 

[Elizah Huge]

He is right, This is from CBAFAQ:

"

23. What is the maximum salary a player can receive? Are there exceptions to the maximum salary?​

Here are the league-wide maximum salaries for the first season of a new contract:

Years in NBA1	Defined maximum salary	2017-18	2018-19	2019-20	2020-21	2021-22	2022-23
0 - 6	25% of cap	$24,773,250	$25,467,250	$27,285,000	$27,285,000	$28,103,500	$30,913,750
7 - 9	30% of cap	$29,727,900	$30,560,700	$32,742,000	$32,742,000	$33,724,200	$37,096,500
10+	35% of cap	$34,682,550	$35,654,150	$38,199,000	$38,199,000	$39,344,900	$43,279,250

"

No, he’s the one saying Lauri would have to make All-NBA team to get the 30%.

 

[Elizah Huge]

We don`t have to offer anything. His agent will probably ask for 30% with max raises and we will start lower.

That goes without being having to be said.

 

[Hedda Gambler]

No, he’s the one saying Lauri would have to make All-NBA team to get the 30%.

Ah, sorry, I misunderstood. He is definitely wrong on that.

 

[homeytennis]

So do the Jazz potentially have three picks i the 24 draft? Our own if we crash and burn, one involved in the Raptors trade and the Wiz 2nd round pick? I also saw that Ochai's father and the Raptors President are good friends.

 

[Elizah Huge]

So do the Jazz potentially have three picks i the 24 draft? Our own if we crash and burn, one involved in the Raptors trade and the Wiz 2nd round pick? I also saw that Ochai's father and the Raptors President are good friends.

That is correct my friend.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

So do the Jazz potentially have three picks i the 24 draft? Our own if we crash and burn, one involved in the Raptors trade and the Wiz 2nd round pick? I also saw that Ochai's father and the Raptors President are good friends.

I do have a feeling one of those late picks is earmarked to go out with Collins… if they are serious about cap space.

 

[homeytennis]

With three draft picks, the Jazz might have to open a day care.

 

[Tanktastic]

Care to find a link? I know he deserves, and he knows he deserves, but sounds uncharacteristic that he states it out loud. Usually he is even too modest and doesn't say much about anything unrelated to games

View: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4Rz0wwrZQodzJ6M3onqOBz?si=b933f678e91549f6


Kristian Palotie: Do you feel you're worth a max deal as a player?

Lauri: Yes, I do. With the efficiency I have in helping the team, and I believe I can still improve quite a lot. I haven't played my best basketball yet and I have a lot of room for growth. I haven't discussed numbers with anyone yet, but I know that Koponen wants a boat - and I'm sure I'll find Shawn there as well.

(Koponen is a retired Finnish national team #1 player and the co-host of the podcast is Shawn Huff, now retired captain of the national team)

 

[Tanktastic]

For a FO that should (for everyone's sake) be desperate to extend Lauri, I don't think coming in with a massive underpay offer is a good move...

And I'm sure that the FO, Lauri's agent and the man himself understand that money today in hand is more valuable than money in four year's time.

 

[Peter_Mentor]

I do have a feeling one of those late picks is earmarked to go out with Collins… if they are serious about cap space.

I don't really think so. I don't think that we will see particularly big moves in the summer, unless really good opportunities open up.

Clarkson's contract is an attractive piece to trade from the summer, and in the summer of 2025, hopefully, there will be no need to make desperate moves to get rid of Collins.

I think next season we will still be a very mediocre team trying to grow its talent pool. A greater ambition for success can be expected from the following season onwards.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

One thing we need to rectify this offseason. We really have no traditional 2s or 3s. JC is a shooting guard but more kinda ball in hand combo guardy type. Secton too.

Just really weird place to situate yourself in the league these days.

 

[Douchebag K]

One thing we need to rectify this offseason. We really have no traditional 2s or 3s. JC is a shooting guard but more kinda ball in hand combo guardy type. Secton too.

Just really weird place to situate yourself in the league these days.

One thing ?? I'd say nearly everything

I still can't believe we bumped Simone bc they might have had to pay him something like the mid level. This has been the move that means i really don't understand the point other than we're in for a decade of hoping one of the first round picks is an all time great.

 

[UpArrow]

One thing ?? I'd say nearly everything

I still can't believe we bumped Simone bc they might have had to pay him something like the mid level. This has been the move that means i really don't understand the point other than we're in for a decade of hoping one of the first round picks is an all time great.

We lucked into one in '17 and he (on the hush hush) forced his way out. Getting two of them in the 80's who actually wanted to spend their careers here was a gift that probably will never be repeated.
Odds that we'll draft another who will want to stay long enough to build a team around them are too poor to bet on.

I really admired what Simone became in his time here and wish we hadn't banished him to Detroit.

 

[jom2003]

One thing we need to rectify this offseason. We really have no traditional 2s or 3s. JC is a shooting guard but more kinda ball in hand combo guardy type. Secton too.

Just really weird place to situate yourself in the league these days.

There's really no 2s or 3s any more. The future of NBA is coming down to three positions, PG, forward and center. SGs who can't pass and power forwards who can't shoot are being phased out.

If you have a SG who can pass, he will just play PG like how we are currently developing keyonte. If we have a PF who can shoot, he will just play the small ball center or anywhere from 2 to 4 depending on the lineup like how we are using Collins.