Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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That will only come from a contender so low end firstJC for some dead matching salary and a 1st if the Jazz can find a team.
That will only come from a contender so low end firstJC for some dead matching salary and a 1st if the Jazz can find a team.
Aight.That will only come from a contender so low end first
They would laugh at that if they wouldn’t be so insulted.Actually, Ingles and Wood's salary match already. They can have an expiring and a pick. We get Wood
Cleveland is desperate to make the playoffs soIngles and a 2RP might get Cedi Osman if the Jazz do another annual Cavs holiday trade. Cavs may be trying to compete for POs this year though.
Clarkson + Butler + future FRP might get a deal with Houston for Wood if Houston can then flip Clarkson for another FRP. They'd be getting 2 FRPs and a decent young prospect for Wood's last 1.5 years. Wood probably isn't going to stick around with Houston long-term, and that's at least as good a return as Portland paid for Robert Covington. Bogey and Gay then replace Clarkson as our primary bench scorers, and our defense improves overall. Problem is, Warriors can beat that package if they want to.
Jazz could waive Miye Oni and bring back Exum.
no no no noJazz could waive Miye Oni and bring back Exum.
How about something realistic, instead?Trade Clarkson and Oni or whoever for salary and picks for Gary Trent Jr. He's can make shots and create a little but he's become a pretty elite perimeter defenser at 6'5". I'm not sure why for Toronto so maybe a third team.
Clarkson for Oubre. A versatile defender would go a long ways for us. We wouldn't need him to create as much.
I think Boston is pushing the luxury tax, and I could see them moving one of their wings to slip under it. It would probably be someone like Nesmith or Langford.
I think Toronto could be talked into moving Siakam, but his contract is just too big for the Jazz.
Ben Simmons would cost Conley, Bogdanovic and 2 FRPs as a starting point, and that probably wouldn't get it done. I think he's just too expensive for a non-shooter.
Fine... they can have the rights to Ante Tomic (we don't actually have those rights anymore but I'm guessing we could trade em again)How about something realistic, instead?
Our opinion does not equal what GMs think. His value was likely not as high as some around here thought this summer and I doubt it has changed all that much among GMs. Maybe at the trade deadline last year at the peak of his hot shooting streak he had a lot more value but I think most GMs have less recency bias than we would. With young players I think it swings wildly because they don't have an established baseline. With vets you kinda know what they are going to give you... maybe you get a small pop because they are in a different situation.I think it's fallen a decent amount. The opinion on him around these parts has definitely fallen a lot. I still think he's a positive asset, but I also think Hart has played really well this year and is now signed to a favorable contract. And like I said, if reality wasn't setting in during the summer for NOP it has to be setting in now. Josh Hart is exactly the type of player they need, but so was Lonzo and they traded a first to downgrade. Hopefully for our sake it adds to more Griffin desperation but there's no way in hell they should let that guy make another move. He should be gone already.
Even if JC's value hasn't dropped a ton, I think the Hart situation is different. If they have anyone with a brain in that FO they'd realize that they accidentally stumbled upon a strong asset. If they still have the opinion of Hart that they did in the off-season, get the deal done.
I've been tempted on Oubre before... we'd all hate him within a few minutes. He would not fit what we want to do imo. His percentages are solid right now and maybe I have just watched him on bad nights... but when I watched him it was fairly off putting.Trade Clarkson and Oni or whoever for salary and picks for Gary Trent Jr. He's can make shots and create a little but he's become a pretty elite perimeter defenser at 6'5". I'm not sure why for Toronto so maybe a third team.
Clarkson for Oubre. A versatile defender would go a long ways for us. We wouldn't need him to create as much.
one lol wasn't enough. so, lol.I think it's fallen a decent amount. The opinion on him around these parts has definitely fallen a lot. I still think he's a positive asset, but I also think Hart has played really well this year and is now signed to a favorable contract. And like I said, if reality wasn't setting in during the summer for NOP it has to be setting in now. Josh Hart is exactly the type of player they need, but so was Lonzo and they traded a first to downgrade. Hopefully for our sake it adds to more Griffin desperation but there's no way in hell they should let that guy make another move. He should be gone already.
Even if JC's value hasn't dropped a ton, I think the Hart situation is different. If they have anyone with a brain in that FO they'd realize that they accidentally stumbled upon a strong asset. If they still have the opinion of Hart that they did in the off-season, get the deal done.
It feels like a pipedream to me, tbh. Boston has the bare minimum of ball-handlers who distribute the ball, so swapping Smart for Clarkson doesn't make much sense to me.So are there developments on Smart that nobody is suggesting that anymore or is it just that people feel JC's value isn't enough to grab him so nobody is discussing it? People mentioned salary issues for Boston and that would save them $2M.
They were losing before and have turned it around a bit. Smart makes more sense on their roster than JC. If they move Smart I think it is in a deal for Ben Simmons or something bigger. Maybe this offseason they move him in a smaller deal.So are there developments on Smart that nobody is suggesting that anymore or is it just that people feel JC's value isn't enough to grab him so nobody is discussing it? People mentioned salary issues for Boston and that would save them $2M.