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I do not see any problem with that. For example during my citizenship test here in Canada, they kicked out Asian dude who could not even speak a single word in English or French. He came to try to pass written citizenship test and since he could not even communicate with officer he was not allowed to even take it. Most of countries have national language test law if you want to become a citizenship.


THIS AINT CITIZEN SHIP.
THIS IS a "green card" issue.
no language no greencard
 
Well, if I I understood correctly that it is the only way for them to legally stay there - which I have no problems either. They either need to get work permit/visa or otherwise legalize their status there. They need to respect Netherlands laws and if they entered country illegally then they should be deported ( and I do not care if they muslim, jew or atheists)
As an immigrant myself who spend thousands of dollars in different fees, waited 3 years for visa to legally enter and live in Canada I have no sympathy for those who try to do it illegal way in any other countries. Respect the law and you will be respected as well.


no theyre are different types of green ccrads here
like student visa
asylum visa.
family visa(like to join a family member/wife

etc basically no local language NO WAY to stay.
 
Well, the truth is, and they actually have real data for this now because of being able to track cell phones, must people spend 95% of their existence in a 4 sq. mile area from their homes. So what would it matter for somebody that could find an enclave of people speaking their base language in a foreign country, if within that community they could find the money/accommodations to keep afloat? Especially older folk whose job prospects don't really have any chance of improving regardless. In your above scenario, you could easily find a corner of Mexico with enough white/English speaking people and not give a rat's *** about speaking the language. Ideally you would want to just to immerse yourself better, but I don't think it's necessary. The lady in that video appears to speak Urdu though, and I'm damn sure there's not a huge Hindi-Urdu clique in the Netherlands so you would think she would absolutely have to learn the language to have any semblance of a life.

It is an important issue because Western countries are killing/not having babies and their welfare ponzi schemes are going to fall apart unless the floodgates remain open. But people that don't know the language can't possibly carry that tax burden. You need immigrants that are able to climb up the ladder, not be stuck in the lower end grind.


that son is where you are wrong ;)
 
The danger is that eventually country can lose it's national identity and immigrants overtaking control. The danger of chaos and anarchy within country. The danger of civil war and so on.

so a world community is dangerous.

its history dude.
all those little towns had their own identity. but then ccountries and war came and they lost it.

so **** national identity. we are all humans one and the same
 
so a world community is dangerous.

its history dude.
all those little towns had their own identity. but then ccountries and war came and they lost it.

so **** national identity. we are all humans one and the same

So you would have no problem with Netherlands disappearing from the world map correct?
 
no theyre are different types of green ccrads here
like student visa
asylum visa.
family visa(like to join a family member/wife

etc basically no local language NO WAY to stay.

So I missed from that report - what kind of visa they have now?
 
to you maybe but not to everybody else due to different reasons!

Like what? What reason could a person that is moving to another country that speaks an entirely different language than their own have to not learn the local language? What possible benefit to their life would they have not to learn the local language?
 
Like what? What reason could a person that is moving to another country that speaks an entirely different language than their own have to not learn the local language? What possible benefit to their life would they have not to learn the local language?

This.

Seems like a good idea to learn the language of the country you live in
 
This.

Seems like a good idea to learn the language of the country you live in

Heck some groups don't even think the country they want to live in has the right to continue to be its own country.

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Like what? What reason could a person that is moving to another country that speaks an entirely different language than their own have to not learn the local language? What possible benefit to their life would they have not to learn the local language?

in that womans case she is being prosecuted back home.
her grown children could elarn the language easy, her husband also could learn the language easy.
for some reason some (old) people cant learn new languages. or languages that are different from their mother tongue.
anywho so now she cant speak it FLUENTLY. she has to go. her husband/children should stay or go?
seriously.

the law may be ok. but problems with the law is they dont go on case by case basis. all just yes or no. no grey areas
 
Correct.

if someone asks me what is my nationailty i say a world citizen

That is great in theory but it will never become a real world concept. Way tomany different views on to many different things. To many people unwilling to compromise.
 
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not sure, doenst matter fact is if they dont speak the language they get no way of staying.

I think you are just guessing here. There is no way language is a requirement for refugee status. Unless again, I am guessing they are there illegally in which case country has all rights to deport them.
 
in that womans case she is being prosecuted back home.
her grown children could elarn the language easy, her husband also could learn the language easy.
for some reason some (old) people cant learn new languages. or languages that are different from their mother tongue.
anywho so now she cant speak it FLUENTLY. she has to go. her husband/children should stay or go?
seriously.

the law may be ok. but problems with the law is they dont go on case by case basis. all just yes or no. no grey areas

Uhm... what?

I didn't say anything about the law, I only said why wouldn't you want to learn the language if you're going to immigrate to another country. And you spout off something about being persecuted back home and now she has to go somewhere else and her husband child..

Yeah bro. You're either drunk or trolling. In either case, lets just stop while you're only so far behind.
 
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