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Who Do You Prefer Among Ace Bailey, Tre Johnson & V.J. Edgecombe? (Poll)

Which player do you prefer for the Jazz?

  • Ace Bailey

    Votes: 17 28.3%

  • Tre Johnson

    Votes: 25 41.7%

  • V.J. Edgecombe

    Votes: 13 21.7%

  • I don't have a strong preference.

    Votes: 5 8.3%
  • Total voters
    60
For me, I think it’s Ace, Tre and then Edgecombe. Also, I like all three a lot and would be happy with any of them.

I have no problems with Ace’s overconfidence. Like really? I don’t care about that. I want the guy that thinks he’s the best player in the draft - regardless of where he’s picked.

"For me, I still think I am the best player in the draft. I know what I am capable of, so like I said, it’s just being true to yourself."

Tre’s offense and higher than expected athleticism have me convinced he’s going to be an elite scorer in the NBA.

Edgecombe sold me on his two-way potential. I think he’s got a lot of Oladipo-like qualities. If he levels up on offense? Awesome.
 
fishonjazz said:
Good to know. Still seems crazy that in a sport where one player can have a huge impact that a team with 2 top 5 nba draft picks would be so bad. I guess that is where their extreme youth has a big effect as well. They are top 5 picks as much for what they project to be than what they actually were last season.
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Which is how it usually goes that high in the draft. It’s rarely based on what they actually did as much as it is based on what the organization thinks they will become as a part of their team.
 
HermanG said:
According to his interviews he has no weaknesses in his game and he doesnt actually take tough shots because he practices all of them (ala THT).

Either he is cocky or pretending to be cocky to display extreme confidence... but he definitely isnt grounded.
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One can be confident as well as grounded.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udAjvnUkxV8


Like I said, he's grounded and I think he and Harper are likable people. He's also still 18 years old:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulkz5pYzdD8
 
Coach Ellis said:
For me, I think it’s Ace, Tre and then Edgecombe. Also, I like all three a lot and would be happy with any of them.

I have no problems with Ace’s overconfidence. Like really? I don’t care about that. I want the guy that thinks he’s the best player in the draft - regardless of where he’s picked.

"For me, I still think I am the best player in the draft. I know what I am capable of, so like I said, it’s just being true to yourself."

Tre’s offense and higher than expected athleticism have me convinced he’s going to be an elite scorer in the NBA.

Edgecombe sold me on his two-way potential. I think he’s got a lot of Oladipo-like qualities. If he levels up on offense? Awesome.
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Also, the quote I attributed to Ace Bailey actually wasn’t Ace. It was Isaiah Collier -



Isaiah Collier on his draft stock: "For me, I still think I am the best player in the draft. I know what I am capable of, so like I said, it’s just being true to yourself."
 
Right now it's Edgecombe for me. I agree with others that we should "swing for the fences", but all three of these guys will need to look a lot different than they did in college to be a high level all star. I think VJ has a lot of potential if he can tighten up his handle.
 
I think Ace is the proverbial Paul George of this draft. I think he's the guy if he's there. Remember, PG was a 20 y.o. soph entering the league, so Ace is a full year younger. If Tre Johnson falls to #5, then he's fine too, and the Jazz can aim for Dybantsa, Peterson, Boozer or Cenac next year.

Draft watchers seem to think that VJ Edgecombe is the least likely to slip to #5. Choosing between Ace and Tre is a 1st-world problem.
 
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After giving it more thought, I kinda think PHI is the ideal situation for Ace. It will force him to be a role player and build out the parts of his game besides mid range shot making. Come to think of it, there’s actually a lot of good wings that started as role player first, then became a star later. Maybe it’s just the case that wings rarely come in ready to play a larger role, but I’m starting to feel like this is exactly what he needs and what he doesn’t need is to have complete freedom to do whatever he wants. Could result in a Kuminga situation, but the unlimited freedom could also reinforce his bad habits. I’d rather have him in a locker room with Embiid, PG, and Maxey than having the freedom he would have here. Eventually he can take over, but he needs those base role player skills first.

On the flip side, I think Utah is a great situation for VJ….or at least it’s a great situation to explore his star potential. He’s going to be a great role player at least. He has those traits locked down. But if he were in the winning situation that might pigeonhole him early. If there’s any chance of VJ becoming a star, he needs reps and reps and more reps in initiator situations. I’m not really worried about VJ picking up the bad habits even if he’s focused on developing out his offense first.

TL/DR: Ace needs less freedom to become a star, VJ needs more.
 
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