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Will Jazz fans kill the Utah Jazz franchise?

I don't get the Deron hate infecting the fans, I really don't. We all know Deron and Jerry had their clashes but that's a part of being a team, it's going to happen. The bottom line is Deron did not (I presume) drive Jerry out of his job. You've got to be some kind of crazy to think he did. There's probably dozens of reasons why Jerry decided to hang it up today. Is Deron one of them? Sure, it's a possibility given their track record. Everyone needs to get over it. The new era of Jazz basketball has begun. Enjoy it.
 
LogGrad98 said:
I agree that he competes, but Sub is right that he will make things worse for himself if he does things that others perceive as whining. I think for most level-headed fans it will take something far more than perceived whining to drop their support for him, but for many fans anything shy of praise for the organization will be enough. He will be walking on egg-shells for a while, fair or not.
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Maybe, but how is booing him going to help?
 
LifeOnaPlate said:
Look, I wanted Sloan to finish out the year. Still, turning on Williams is idiocy, imo.
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I am fearing that that wave may be too large to stop now. I hope not. The national media is perpetuating it, and they love drama. Especially on a team where drama is unheard of. We'll see what happens.
 
Losing Stockton would have wrecked the franchise in the 90s.

Losing D-Will is going to hurt the Jazz, no question, but D-Will has yet to play to even half of Stockton's potential.

I have said many times in various places that D-Will is the core of the team right now, but if the core needs to be thrown out and we have to start over because the core can't or won't prove himself to be man enough to walk his talk, so be it. D-Will can speak lots of words about hard work and the will to win, but it's all hot air if he can't put his play where his mouth is. Sloan is out. If that's what D-Will needed most to become a champion player, let him prove it. It's all on him now. Sucks to be him.

I think D-Will leaves in 2012. After he finds out how rough it is having to freelance his own system.
 
VINYLONE said:
Does Williams have a history of whining or playing hard and competing?
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Yes.

I think it's fairly well known that Deron can be a bit of an ***. But you want the sugar, you take the salt, too.

I think you're trying to stir up an awfully small pot, Vinyl. A handful of folks on this board vented some frustration. The matter was fresh, information was sparse, and some finger pointing was going to happen. A special thanks to ESPN, for running amok with as much disinformation as they could muster.

By friday, cooler heads will have prevailed.
 
Bronco70 said:
I think you're trying to stir up an awfully small pot, Vinyl. A handful of folks on this board vented some frustration. The matter was fresh, information was sparse, and some finger pointing was going to happen. A special thanks to ESPN, for running amok with as much disinformation as they could muster.

By friday, cooler heads will have prevailed.
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I hope you are 100 percent correct.
 
VINYLONE said:
Kind of unfair isnt it...to compare Williams to Stockton?
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Perhaps. But D-Will has been the one acting like his hall-of-fame coach is the one with the problem. If D-Will wanted Sloan gone, he got his wish. Now it's all on him. Time for him to rise up and be the champion man, or he's just another overpayed crybaby -- like almost all NBA players these days.
 
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