Gay Nightclub mass shooting -- Orlando, Florida

[Deleted member 848]

The reward isn't for praying, it's for dying for Allah. Not sure if converting and then killing yourself because you are really an infidel counts, but give it a go, ask for 72 MILFs and then communicate with CJ and let us know how it went.

Stay in your own lane.

 

[stitches]

I don't want to downplay this at all but for perspectives sake, there are about the same number of Americans killed in just the city of Chicago every year as Americans killed by radical Islamists worldwide. Radical Islam is a threat but not to the degree we seem to think it is.

There are a couple of serious difference though. Namely - radical Islamists don't operate only on US soil and their victims in Muslim majority countries are much more numerous AND second which is even more important, there is a difference in the stated goals and intentions - the killers in Chicago don't want to spread their vicious version of Islam throughout the world and don't want to kill as many non-Muslims or not-pure-enough Muslims through any means possible.

Don't get me wrong, gun violence and gang violence is a very serious problem that needs to be tackled with utmost seriousness, but the Chicago killers are not looking to maximize their indiscriminate killing count and are not looking to acquire weapons of mass destruction, while if Al Qaeda or ISIS had a nuclear bomb, do you think they'd hesitate to use it on highly populated area with civilians?

That's the biggest difference and that's the reason it should be taken VERY seriously even if the victim count doesn't currently rise to levels of other domestic threats. Where they have most control, there are daily mass killings and executions of innocent people, and if they are not challenged and fought, this cancer will spread and sooner or later they will find a way to acquire even worse weapons and use them against even more people.

 

[Miggs]

sadly ironic that it occurred on Loving Day - named in recognition of the U.S. Supreme Court case Loving vs. Virginia, that struck down laws against inter-racial marriage



https://time.com/4364686/loving-day-loving-v-virginia/

The movie Loving is coming out this fall with Joel Edgerton as the white male in the relationship and Ruth Negga (you can't make that up) as the black female and Jeff Nichols directing. Supposed to be pretty damn good.

 

[Miggs]

Wes with Lisa Ann would be like throwing a hotdog down a hallway. She let's Draymond Green plow her and pimp her to other players.

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I'd ask that she did a thousand kegels a day for a week or two before we got together. That should do the trick.

 

[fishonjazz]

I think it does, but I also think it deserves proportional response(as in calmly engaging those people and challenging their views), rather than lumping them in a group with the killers and pouring your ire on them almost on the same level as you do with the killers.

Great post.
Jim les flying off the handle doesn't help anything.

 

[fishonjazz]

What he's saying isn't absurd. It makes perfect sense. Culture matters.

bern expressed disapproval of a group people based on their private behavior without providing any justification. He's contributing to a culture of hate.

What has JimLes done/said that could be linked to a racially motivated shooting?

Well Jim less is showing tons of hate to people who think like bern. Therefore creating a culture of hate for people who think like bern (christians).

So if someone shoots up a church then that means jim les contributed to that shooting right?

 

[fishonjazz]

He's just pointing out that fostering a culture of hate has negative consequences.

Bern fostered a culture of hate towards bern I this very thread. Seems hypocritical to me.

 

[Harambe]

Well Jim less is showing tons of hate to people who think like bern. Therefore creating a culture of hate for people who think like bern (christians).

So if someone shoots up a church then that means jim les contributed to that shooting right?

Infallible logic. Prosecute to the furthest extent!

 

[fishonjazz]

She looks like a dude and her **** are saggy. I understand why u want to talk.

Lol

 

[fishonjazz]

Wes with Lisa Ann would be like throwing a hotdog down a hallway. She let's Draymond Green plow her and pimp her to other players.

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Draymond really hit it? Loved the wes dick size vs lisa vag size joke btw.

Reminds of when Tom arnold was asked to comment about roseanne bar saying he has a small dick. He said that even a 747 airplane seems small when flying through the grand canyon

 

[fishonjazz]

Infallible logic. Prosecute to the furthest extent!

Yep. That's jim les logic in this. If you think poorly towards anyone or any group for any reason and then that person or someone of that group dies then you basically killed them too.
Jim les is showing hatred towards people who think like bern (most christians) so if people who think like bern (christians) get murdered then jim les should feel somewhat responsible. At least that is what jim les said.

I personally think that is dumb and horrible logic.

 

[TroutBum]

I spent the hour teaching my Sundayschool class yesterday about tolerance, love, and respect for our brothers and sisters (We Mo's sometimes forget that we fought hand in hand, as brothers and sisters, against evil, in the preexistance). Judging others is thankfully not up to us, and that we have the easier job of simply loving one another. In short, life is too short and precious to waste time hating (with the exception of The Lakers and DuhBron), so stop being dicks.

I'll probably be asked to not teach anymore. *fingers crossed*

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Draymond really hit it? Loved the wes dick size vs lisa vag size joke btw.

Reminds of when Tom arnold was asked to comment about roseanne bar saying he has a small dick. He said that even a 747 airplane seems small when flying through the grand canyon

Yes, he litterally setups other NBA players to bang her too.

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[fishonjazz]

Yes, he litterally setups other NBA players to bang her too.

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Wow. Pretty skanky stuff

 

[Boris]

Someone/something has to create killers. No one lives in a bubble. Someone has to create that atmosphere, the views, the hate. It doesn't happen on its own, and we give those people who create that hate a pass.

That is a cute pet theory. What did you name this? The FBI would disagree with you outright.

 

[Boris]

I don't want to downplay this at all but for perspectives sake, there are about the same number of Americans killed in just the city of Chicago every year as Americans killed by radical Islamists worldwide. Radical Islam is a threat but not to the degree we seem to think it is.

I feel a strong desire to point out that most USA violence is drug on drug related. Meaning gang turf wars and the like. USA has a drug problem not a violence problem.

Funny aside is Reagans stupid war on drugs actually lowered the cost of illicit drugs as the pesticide sprays targeted MJ much better than cocoa and the product is higher profit and easier to smuggle and more addictive.

Modern studies are showing The War On Drugs has actually lowered crime through cheaper costs and increased accessibility. In essence, if a person does not have to snatch as many purses because prices are much cheaper crime rates have gone way down. As a true libertarian, I hate the criminalization and all the police stop and frisk targeting that is credited with lowering crack related crime. We know arresting a drug dealer does nothing more than create an open job position and potentially increase drug prices temporarily and thus violence.

End the war on drugs!

 

[Stoked]

I feel a strong desire to point out that most USA violence is drug on drug related. Meaning gang turf wars and the like. USA has a drug problem not a violence problem.

Funny aside is Reagans stupid war on drugs actually lowered the cost of illicit drugs as the pesticide sprays targeted MJ much better than cocoa and the product is higher profit and easier to smuggle and more addictive.

Modern studies are showing The War On Drugs has actually lowered crime through cheaper costs and increased accessibility. In essence, if a person does not have to snatch as many purses because prices are much cheaper crime rates have gone way down. As a true libertarian, I hate the criminalization and all the police stop and frisk targeting that is credited with lowering crack related crime. We know arresting a drug dealer does nothing more than create an open job position and potentially increase drug prices temporarily and thus violence.

End the war on drugs!

I disagree. I think America has both. Not all violence = death. Not all drug problems = violence. Sure there is some overlap but one is not solely a symptom of the other.

 

[addictionary]

- radical Islamists don't operate only on US soil and their victims in Muslim majority countries are much more numerous

Why would you think that? If we were to calculate body count, you would be amazed how many Muslims are dead or banished from their homes because of Shiite and Sunni radical Islamist groups.


Edit: nevermind I got it the opposite way. Sorry.

 

[Boris]

I disagree. I think America has both. Not all violence = death. Not all drug problems = violence. Sure there is some overlap but one is not solely a symptom of the other.

That was poorly worded. Drug related violence problem may have been better. I have not the time now so I will show you proof that 75% of violence in USA is related to drug trade. You will be shocked.

 

[Boris]

We could be the lowest crime rate in the world if we sold OTC cheap meth crack and heroin in every CVS pharmacy.