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Is Russia Helping Trump?

The FBI is very concerned about the Russian hacking. Reports have been that a large number of FBI agents dislike Clinton so I think their concern has nothing to do with her not winning.

FBI has reported they know Russia hacked DNC emails. They have also reported that there is good reason to believe many of the leaked emails were tampered with.
They have also shown solid evidence that the RNC was hacked along with other conservative groups and individuals but they did not spread any information found.
The FBI knows that Russian Government bankrolled troll farms to spread fake news.
The FBI has shown that voter registration database was hacked in Arizona and at least 2 other states.

This has nothing to do with who won. It is not clear that they were trying to get Trump to win. That is one possible guess but it is just that. It is more likely they were just trying to create confusion and chaos throughout our election to cause instability.

I am sure some Democrats are pointing to this as a reason to discredit Trump or hope for Clinton winning. That is the minority though. Trump has won and this information is not changing that fact. It has little to do with that. It has to do with cyber attacks on this country against Republicans and Democrats by Russia.
 
DutchJazzer said:
trump winning :D, ofcourse
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You have not been paying attention or else your reading comprehension sucks. Or you are just trolling.
Try going back and reading some of the posts by me and gameface. We are not blaming trump winning on russia.

We are saying that Russia should not be involved in American elections.
This is something that all americans, democrat or republicans, SHOULD agree on.
 
Ron Mexico said:
The FBI is very concerned about the Russian hacking. Reports have been that a large number of FBI agents dislike Clinton so I think their concern has nothing to do with her not winning.

FBI has reported they know Russia hacked DNC emails. They have also reported that there is good reason to believe many of the leaked emails were tampered with.
They have also shown solid evidence that the RNC was hacked along with other conservative groups and individuals but they did not spread any information found.
The FBI knows that Russian Government bankrolled troll farms to spread fake news.
The FBI has shown that voter registration database was hacked in Arizona and at least 2 other states.

This has nothing to do with who won. It is not clear that they were trying to get Trump to win. That is one possible guess but it is just that. It is more likely they were just trying to create confusion and chaos throughout our election to cause instability.

I am sure some Democrats are pointing to this as a reason to discredit Trump or hope for Clinton winning. That is the minority though. Trump has won and this information is not changing that fact. It has little to do with that. It has to do with cyber attacks on this country against Republicans and Democrats by Russia.
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ok. keep this up and in 2020 the popular vote wont be won and trump will get even more of the ec. because trumps popularity is rising among right wingers who where skeptical about his new york liberal past!
 
Ron Mexico said:
The FBI is very concerned about the Russian hacking. Reports have been that a large number of FBI agents dislike Clinton so I think their concern has nothing to do with her not winning.

FBI has reported they know Russia hacked DNC emails. They have also reported that there is good reason to believe many of the leaked emails were tampered with.
They have also shown solid evidence that the RNC was hacked along with other conservative groups and individuals but they did not spread any information found.
The FBI knows that Russian Government bankrolled troll farms to spread fake news.
The FBI has shown that voter registration database was hacked in Arizona and at least 2 other states.

This has nothing to do with who won. It is not clear that they were trying to get Trump to win. That is one possible guess but it is just that. It is more likely they were just trying to create confusion and chaos throughout our election to cause instability.

I am sure some Democrats are pointing to this as a reason to discredit Trump or hope for Clinton winning. That is the minority though. Trump has won and this information is not changing that fact. It has little to do with that. It has to do with cyber attacks on this country against Republicans and Democrats by Russia.
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Weird that some people can not understand this.

Like stoked said.... some people (dutch, computer, etc) are always going to push their agenda no matter what.
 
fishonjazz said:
You have not been paying attention or else your reading comprehension sucks. Or you are just trolling.
Try going back and reading some of the posts by me and gameface. We are not blaming trump winning on russia.

We are saying that Russia should not be involved in American elections.
This is something that all americans, democrat or republicans, SHOULD agree on.
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they should not ofcourse. but they have not been!

it is just another excuse the liberals make, ebcause they are perfect. nothing is their fault
 
DutchJazzer said:
they should not ofcourse. but they have not been!

it is just another excuse the liberals make, ebcause they are perfect. nothing is their fault
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The liberals are not making the excuse. The FBI and CIA are. Conservatives are also saying that Russia got involved in our election process.

You are way too paranoid and obsessed about liberals.
 
It's true that, virtually since its creation, the CIA has been involved in interference in the political fortunes of many countries. But, this is my country, and it's difficult to just say "what goes around, comes around", and that Russia interfering in our 2016 election is something I somehow must accept with a "well, we have it coming" attitude. This has always been the biggest story of the 2016 election. I think Obama calculated pushing the story too hard before the election would look like too political a move, which it would have been. And, in my opinion, should have been. And I also think they assumed Hillary was going to win anyway. On a personal level, I would be satisfied with taking an 8 lb. sledgehammer to Putin's nuts, and we're all square, Vladimir. I guess Obama has other plans, Here's his thoughts, from this mornings NPR interview:

https://www.npr.org/2016/12/15/505775550/obama-on-russian-hacking-we-need-to-take-action-and-we-will
 
fishonjazz said:
We shouldn't be ok with other countries tampering with our elections.

Keep spinning though.
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What do got against transparency? How is that a bad thing? You actually think its better we didnt know what Hillary was up to? How on earth does that make any sense?

Are you sure you just aren't regurgitating talking points from the main stream lefty media? Doesnt sound like you are actually thinking about this.
 
Computer said:
What do got against transparency? How is that a bad thing? You actually think its better we didnt know what Hillary was up to? How on earth does that make any sense?

Are you sure you just aren't regurgitating talking points from the main stream lefty media? Doesnt sound like you are actually thinking about this.
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I'm against other countries being involved in my countries election.

It's sad that you aren't
 
Red said:
It's true that, virtually since its creation, the CIA has been involved in interference in the political fortunes of many countries. But, this is my country, and it's difficult to just say "what goes around, comes around", and that Russia interfering in our 2016 election is something I somehow must accept with a "well, we have it coming" attitude. This has always been the biggest story of the 2016 election. I think Obama calculated pushing the story too hard before the election would look like too political a move, which it would have been. And, in my opinion, should have been. And I also think they assumed Hillary was going to win anyway. On a personal level, I would be satisfied with taking an 8 lb. sledgehammer to Putin's nuts, and we're all square, Vladimir. I guess Obama has other plans, Here's his thoughts, from this mornings NPR interview:

https://www.npr.org/2016/12/15/505775550/obama-on-russian-hacking-we-need-to-take-action-and-we-will
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If outside sources want to expose the corruption in our government, then Im all for it. Hack and expose away. I dont understand why any citizen of this counrty would object to it.
 
fishonjazz said:
I'm against other countries being involved in my countries election.

It's sad that you aren't
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Its sad that you so easily overlook corruption in our government, and care more about protecting the crooked politicians, than having transparency and truth delivered to the citizens.
 
btw it is wrong for putin to meddle in us affairs.


so how about obama meddling in brexit affairs.

he openly went to Britain to meddle into their local affairs. even threatening the people if they left eu. yes OBAMA said and i qoute: The UK is going to be in the back of the queue." so yeah it's ok if obama does it. but not okay if someone else does it.


lol obama's legacy gone. TRULY GONE every lil executive order WOOOOSH gone like a fart in the wind all that remains of his legacy is that he made more debt then every other president combined!
 
Computer said:
Its sad that you so easily overlook corruption in our government, and care more about protecting the crooked politicians, than having transparency and truth delivered to the citizens.
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So you think russia having any say in our elections is a good thing? You are glad that they got involved in our election process?

Do you think that each election year we should contact the government of a different country and tell them that we want them to investigate our candidates and then trust that government that they don't care who wins and will be totally fair and transparent regarding each candidate?

You apparently think russia and putin are just super honest and transparent and only wanted what is best for america and so they were just trying to help us get the best candidate elected.

Lol
 
DutchJazzer said:
yet you're post modern marxist obama got heavily involved with the brexit vote, even using a threat.
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Which I do not think he should have done but to me that is not the same as the vote for who will be a countries leaders.

Also Obama (and by extension America), as far as we know, didn't do this through any allegedly nefarious means like hacking.
 
DutchJazzer said:
yet you're post modern marxist obama. got heavily involved with the brexit vote. even using a threat.
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And I'm still against other countries being involved in our election process.

Let me just stop you right here. Nothing you say will ever make me think it's a good idea to have other countries involved in my countries election.
 
Computer said:
If outside sources want to expose the corruption in our government, then Im all for it. Hack and expose away. I dont understand why any citizen of this counrty would object to it.
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So you naively belive that outside sources will give us any and all info that they find just cause they want what is best for us lol.

You sure do trust these outside sources a lot. Yet seem to call everything that you don't agree with fake news yet trust "outside sources" without even knowing who they are or why they have info or how or where they got it or how much info they are holding back.

Lol
 
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