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Kirelenko in Trade talks!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Diaw for AK seems like a small step backwards talent wise yes, but it saves a boatload of money for Jazz and may be a setup move to do other transactions.
 
InGameStrategy said:
Because if Melo doesn't want to stay in Denver, he definitely doesn't want to come to Utah.

He's a NY punk; that's where he wants to go.

Utah was "patiant" with AK for years and weren't able to trade him successfully. Maybe things are easier now that he's an expiring, but he's making more money, too, and they are probably thinking that this chance might not come around again between now and february.

And if Utah is building to beat LA, the way to not do it is to trade away their only 7-footer under the age of 30 (who isn't even signed yet) as you are suggesting.

You need to check your numbers if you think that Utah can afford DW, AJ, Melo, AK (even re-signed at a lower value) and everybody else.

P.S. There's this great invention called punctuation. And a great key called "Enter" or "Return."
P.P.S. Is your nickname possibly "Catch 'n Jack"?
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Technically, he is a Baltimore punk.
 
So, the first time the Jazz try to trade a white guy for a couple of black guys and the place goes crazy.
 
Jazz4ever said:
You don't even have to look at +/- we can see from career PER (Diaw 13, AK 19.4) that Diaw is not even remotely the player AK is. It is a good financial move if your rebuilding. If that's the case, someone message DWill so we can start preparing to get what we can for him.
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It would be hard to argue that it's not a downgrade in talent, even in the best scenario of Diawboy coming here, getting in shape, and contributing. And it's not about rebuilding; Utah's just exploring how to get under the LT. "Rebuilding" would being able to get far under the luxury tax--and having high draft picks to support the process.

I'm not sure how much Deron was really enamored with AK anyway. He didn't pass him the ball much, probably cringed when Kiri dribbled into the lane, likely wasn't overjoyed with Andrei's injuries, and is better friends with CJ and Millsap.

What DW knows is that Utah needs defense, but as the highest paid PG in the league by far (except for CP3, whose team is crumbling under his cost), Deron doesn't really have much to complain about when it comes to financial moves. Devin Harris, for example, is not at the talent level as Deron, but he comes relatively cheaper. Not sayin' that Utah should trade Deron. I'm just sayin' in general.
 
Hearsky said:
So, the first time the Jazz try to trade a white guy for a couple of black guys and the place goes crazy.
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Diaw isn't really "black." He's like French bread--brown on the outside, mushy and white on the inside . . . .

(Or the Pillsbury croissant analogy appropriately works, too)
 
InGameStrategy said:
Oops; my bad. I was going off his Orangeman skin (Syracuse).
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Well then, you should have clarified as "Upstate New York Punk." Because, if you ever get out of Taylorsville you would know that Syracuse is a lot different than NY. It's like calling ShawN Bradley a SLC Punk (great movie by the way). And yes I realize NY is technically a state and not the city.
 
I await with eager anticipation the end of the AK47 era in Utah. A giant ***** on the court and a destructive influence in the locker room.
 
Hearsky said:
Ughh, I was hoping this deal wouldn't happen, but since you have never been correct on anything, I am now less optimistic.
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I was the one that called the Al Jefferson trade 3 days before it was reported by the media, but keep on digging Watson.
 
True story: my buddy ran into Diaw at the JFK airport last night and asked him about the trade. Diaw said he was told it's pretty much a done deal and he expects to be in Utah in the next few days.
 
For those of you defending this craptastic trade rumor from a financial perspective keep this in mind: the purported $18 million savings is a phantom number.

Doing some back of the envelope calculations, taking into account both seasons Diaw will be under contract (he's not opting out, that's a fantasy), and making very realistic assumptions about luxury tax payouts and future luxury tax probabilities I estimate the actual savings to the Miller family at $6.4 million with a total "ceiling" (i.e. the absolute maximum savings) of $9 million.

If you cite any number higher than $9 million, you're buying a company line designed to sell you a bad bill of goods.
 
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