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Jazz Officially Matched Hayward According to Woj

Core4 said:
On a per year basis:
James, Bosh, Kobe, Amare, Joe Johnson, Howard, Irving, Wall, Cousins, Paul, Durant, Deron, Gay, Rose, Griffin, Boozer, Randolph, M. Gasol, George, Love, Westbrook, B. Lopez, Aldridge, Lee.

His deal will start at about the same as Asik, Lin, Hibbert and E. Gordon are making this season.

And remember, salaries "leapfrog" so some players may sign deals next season which will move them ahead of Gordon. From his draft class, Wall and George were both extended for a lot more money. Cousins will make about 3 million more.
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He was asking who got a bigger contract than hayward this free agent off season.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
If Exum becomes starting PG, I think Exum/Hayward backcourt will be a top-5 passing duo.
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Do you think hayward can play small forward and be a good passer at the small forward position as well?
 
fishonjazz said:
He was asking who got a bigger contract than hayward this free agent off season.
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I think the point is who has bigger contracts in the league. That really sets his value relative to everyone else. And a few players from his draft class were extended before hitting the market. I think you definitely have to consider what those contracts look like.
 
Well, I hope Hayward is able to get past his performance last year and lights it up this year. I hope he turns into the player we all hope he can be.
 
GVC said:
Granted, the fanbase and media would have gone nuts had the Jazz signed Gordo to an extension at $14mm per year, but that alone isn't a good reason not to offer it. In the end, Gordo's agent was right, DL and Favors' agent were wrong.
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I don't think it's necessarily fair to say that Favors' agent was "wrong". Maybe Favors really likes living in Utah and he didn't mind taking less money to get a deal done right away. I know it's extremely rare nowadays, but not everyone is all about money.
 
I think the way the roster is setting up that Hayward is going to have to play many more minutes as a SF. Too many PG/SG's on the roster now to play him exclusively at SG.
 
LMAO. Enjoy years of lottery picks and being maybe barely good enough to sneak into the playoffs on some years to only get smashed out in the first round...lol,, Way overpaid for him and Bobcats knew you would match. Someties you got to call the bluff.
 
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akirac73 said:
I don't think it's necessarily fair to say that Favors' agent was "wrong". Maybe Favors really likes living in Utah and he didn't mind taking less money to get a deal done right away. I know it's extremely rare nowadays, but not everyone is all about money.
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You really showed in this statement that you are not from the States
 
ncoloradojazz said:
LMAO. Enjoy years of lottery picks and being maybe barely good enough to sneak into the playoffs on some years to only get smashed out in the first round...lol,, Way overpaid for him and Bobcats knew you would match. Someties you got to call the bluff.
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Forgive my ignorance, but what team do you actually like, or are you just Little Miss Sunshine wherever you go?
 
ncoloradojazz said:
You really showed in this statement that you are not from the States
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You are right. Tim Duncan only took $10M to help with the SA finances, but he's from the (US) Virgin Islands, so not really one of us greedy 'mericans. Everyone in the States is motivated by money and only money.
 
sgjazzfan said:
Ariza was better for 1 year! Haywards career stats are better than Ariza's. Heck, Haywards Career stats are probably close to as good as the 4 best years Ariza has had. Hayward is 23. When Ariza was 23, he averaged probably around 6 points a game and shot less than 30 percent from 3's. Ariza played well last year, but the 2 years before that, he was outplayed. He also had John Wall taking attention away from him and was able to be a complimentary player. Hayward had defenses focused on him and struggled a bit (as Ariza would too) but was still able to score almost 17 ppg. Hayward is a better player. And Ariza wasn't coming to Utah anyway. He was likely looking for a good deal with a contender first, then a great deal with a non contender. He got a good deal with Houston and will probably do pretty well, because teams will be focusing on Harden and Howard.
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Career Stats:
Trevor Ariza
Min 26.9 FGA 8.2 FG% 43.4 3pt% 34.7 FT 69.6 Reb 4.6 Ast 2.0 Blk 1.4 Stl 1.4 TO 1.4 Pts 9.7

Gordon Hayward
Min 28.3 FGA 9.4 FG% 43.6 3pt% 36.5 FT 81.3 Reb 3.4 Ast 3.1 Blk 0.5 Stl 0.9 TO 1.8 Pts 12.0
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Biggest Advantages:
Hayward has advantage over Ariza on 3pt% 36.5 vs 34.7
Hayward has advantage over Ariza on FT% 81.3 vs 69.6
Ariza has advantage over Hayward on Reb 4.6 vs 3.4
Hayward has advantage over Ariza on Ast 3.1 vs 2.0
Ariza has advantage over Hayward on Blk 1.4 vs 0.5
Ariza has advantage over Hayward on Stl 1.4 vs 0.9
Ariza has a contract advantage over Hayward 8m vs 15.75m
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Notes:
Ariza played 1.4 mpg less than Hayward
Didn't list PTS or FGA because that could actually be a disadvantage when you shoot low percentage, would rather someone with a higher percentage take those shots.
Ariza just missed out on the all-defense team last year and considered one of the better wing defenders in the league.
Ariza started out slow first 3 season and has improved since then with last year one of his best years
Hayward Started out strong on first season and has declined 3 consecutive years with last year being his worst of his career
Hayward has an advantage on age 24 vs 29
Hayward has advantage on tangables on offense while Ariza has advantage on tangables on defense
Team can get rid of Ariza after 3 yrs, Hayward after 4 yrs
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Based on this I would say Ariza was the better deal! Hayward has gotten worse each season with more usage time, where Ariza has gotten better since his first three years in the league. And if you go by what have you done for me lately its not even close, Ariza blew him away on offense and defense last season
 
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Shocker00 said:
Career Stats:
Trevor Ariza
Min 26.9 FGA 8.2 FG% 43.4 3pt% 34.7 FT 69.6 Reb 4.6 Ast 2.0 Blk 1.4 Stl 1.4 TO 1.4 Pts 9.7

Gordon Hayward
Min 28.3 FGA 9.4 FG% 43.6 3pt% 36.5 FT 81.3 Reb 3.4 Ast 3.1 Blk 0.5 Stl 0.9 TO 1.8 Pts 12.0
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Biggest Advantages:
Hayward has advantage over Ariza on 3pt% 36.5 vs 34.7
Hayward has advantage over Ariza on FT% 81.3 vs 69.6
Ariza has advantage over Hayward on Reb 4.6 vs 3.4
Hayward has advantage over Ariza on Ast 3.1 vs 2.0
Ariza has advantage over Hayward on Blk 1.4 vs 0.5
Ariza has advantage over Hayward on Stl 1.4 vs 0.9
Ariza has a contract advantage over Hayward 8m vs 15.75m
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Notes:
Ariza played 1.4 mpg less than Hayward
Didn't list PTS or FGA because that could actually be a disadvantage when you shoot low percentage, would rather someone with a higher percentage take those shots.
Ariza just missed out on the all-defense team last year and considered one of the better wing defenders in the league.
Ariza started out slow first 3 season and has improved since then with last year one of his best years
Hayward Started out strong on first season and has declined 3 consecutive years with last year being his worst of his career
Hayward has an advantage on age 24 vs 29
Hayward has advantage on tangables on offense while Ariza has advantage on tangables on defense
Team can get rid of Ariza after 3 yrs, Hayward after 4 yrs
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Based on this I would say Ariza was the better deal! Hayward has gotten worse each season with more usage time, where Ariza has gotten better since his first three years in the league. And if you go by what have you done for me lately its not even close, Ariza blew him away on offense and defense last season
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Don't know if the Jazz could of got them but would much rather have.
Trevor Ariza + Lance Stephenson for almost the same price as Hayward and Murphy
Trevor Ariza + Lance Stephenson>Gordon Hayward
 
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