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Dennis Lindsey: We will be VERY active in free agency

str8line said:
Oops, yeah... duh. I just looked at games started. Now I remember him being out a ton. At least his per 36 number haven't dropped off.

One Love is right, but we can always dream. Maybe we could give him a guaranteed coaching position after he's done... A lifetime season pass to Vail City?
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What if he eventually figures out that you don't need a pass to visit Vail City?
 
Assuming zero injuries

Hill(30) Exum(18)
Hood(18) Burks(30)
Hayward(35) Hood(13)
Bigs
Favors(30) Gobert(30) Lyles(20) FA(16)

If we have a wing/guard injury a guy like Dudley can keep us afloat. Let's say Hill goes down for 2 weeks. Exum takes the full 30 at PG, Burks plays 18 @ backup pg, Hood takes 30 at SG, and Dudley fills in the 13 mins behind Hayward. We need another big but he needs to be able to play the 3 imo.
 
♪alt13 said:
Assuming zero injuries

Hill(30) Exum(18)
Hood(18) Burks(30)
Hayward(35) Hood(13)
Bigs
Favors(30) Gobert(30) Lyles(20) FA(16)

If we have a wing/guard injury a guy like Dudley can keep us afloat. Let's say Hill goes down for 2 weeks. Exum takes the full 30 at PG, Burks plays 18 @ backup pg, Hood takes 30 at SG, and Dudley fills in the 13 mins behind Hayward. We need another big but he needs to be able to play the 3 imo.
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Max Barnes yo!!!
 
NAOS said:
His first name is Max, right?
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Country music legend Max D. Barnes? Just clarifying.

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Not sure why some people think Gasol wouldn't be the perfect fit here.

Gasol may or may not want the situation. He is a big boy and can make up his own mind. But, I am not sure another team would offer him a bigger contract. We are in the unique position where we can front load contracts like other teams likely won't do without jeopardizing our future. We are looking for guys to come in for 2 years and help us grow. Pau likes the coach, won't get similar money from other squads, and will make the playoffs with the Jazz. The Spurs are nice, but he will get $4 million per year or something like that with the Spurs. He could get $8 - $10 million from us next year. Now, I know many of you think players are all about the rings, but money talks my friends.
 
The Jazz Wonderbra said:
Not sure why some people think Gasol wouldn't be the perfect fit here.

Gasol may or may not want the situation. He is a big boy and can make up his own mind. But, I am not sure another team would offer him a bigger contract. We are in the unique position where we can front load contracts like other teams likely won't do without jeopardizing our future. We are looking for guys to come in for 2 years and help us grow. Pau likes the coach, won't get similar money from other squads, and will make the playoffs with the Jazz. The Spurs are nice, but he will get $4 million per year or something like that with the Spurs. He could get $8 - $10 million from us next year. Now, I know many of you think players are all about the rings, but money talks my friends.
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I think we would all love to have gasol.
 
The problem with bringing Gasol might be having him come off the bench. The guy has been a starter all his career so our we going to put Rudy to the bench. I wouldn't want to piss Rudy off and have him go somewhere else.
 
♪alt13 said:
Assuming zero injuries

Hill(30) Exum(18)
Hood(18) Burks(30)
Hayward(35) Hood(13)
Bigs
Favors(30) Gobert(30) Lyles(20) FA(16)

If we have a wing/guard injury a guy like Dudley can keep us afloat. Let's say Hill goes down for 2 weeks. Exum takes the full 30 at PG, Burks plays 18 @ backup pg, Hood takes 30 at SG, and Dudley fills in the 13 mins behind Hayward. We need another big but he needs to be able to play the 3 imo.
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I'd like Lyles to play 25 minutes and Exum to get at least 20... don't have much of a problem with any of the other stuff.

The issue is that leaves like 10 minutes for FA-X... does Gasol want to play 10 minutes a night? I also think you could ramp up any of the other guys by a few minutes when healthy and we are fine. We also have decent rotation fill in guys like Ingles, Neto, and Withey.

Tbh... I actually like the idea of bringing Booker back if he strikes out. He would be lower on the depth chart, but I'd almost rather bring him back on a 1 or 2 year deal to be the fourth big. There would be no learning curve and he fits in. I'm not sure his market will be terribly robust.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I'd like Lyles to play 25 minutes and Exum to get at least 20... don't have much of a problem with any of the other stuff.

The issue is that leaves like 10 minutes for FA-X... does Gasol want to play 10 minutes a night? I also think you could ramp up any of the other guys by a few minutes when healthy and we are fine. We also have decent rotation fill in guys like Ingles, Neto, and Withey.

Tbh... I actually like the idea of bringing Booker back if he strikes out. He would be lower on the depth chart, but I'd almost rather bring him back on a 1 or 2 year deal to be the fourth big. There would be no learning curve and he fits in. I'm not sure his market will be terribly robust.
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This sounds like me and some others last year when we wanted to bake the cake.
I was asking the same questions about minutes when people were suggesting overpaying for Danny green, demarre carroll, and wes matthews. You even mention ingles, neto, and withey as being good in the whole limited backup/emergency role. (I said similar things too last summer)

I always thought you were of the opinion that you simply go out and get all the talent possible and don't worry about minutes. If people are unhappy with minutes/roles Just trade em and all that.

Interesting.
 
I would think Gasol would want to go to a legit contender.
He can still help a elite team win.
 
I think the main problems we will have with free agents this summer are the following:
1. We probably are not great destination for the very best FAs
2. We cannot guarantee starting spot or even big minutes for the middle-tier FAs(our roster is relatively full - we have 3 wings, 2-3 PGs, 3 bigs)
3. We might want to limit ourselves to short-term deals, to preserve long-term flexibility

Who would prefer a short-term deal to long term deal or would willingly accept short term deal - either a player who wants to build up his value and hit free agency again or a player at the end of his career when he knows he cannot demand long-term big money deals. No. 2 pretty much eliminates the players who want to build up their value, unless they think they can get enough minutes on this team. Thus the only category of player that fits what we would be offering is - low-mid tier vet at the end of the career(gets final overpay to be a vet on a good team and mentor the young players, rather than demand huge playing time). The more I think about it the less likely I think it is that we get one of the young players coming out of their rookie deals who are considered mid-tier(Solomon Hill, Motiejunas, Crabbe, etc).

I think Luol Deng might get a longer-term contract than we think(3-4 years) and we probably can't offer him that.

Jared Dudley is probably one of the few that makes a TON of sense. He has said that he will be searching good pay and that he thinks he can help a young team and wouldn't demand minutes(can help even from the bench).

The other type of player we might expect getting is the low-tier players that can't afford to be picky about their options and are willing to sign contract to stay in the league.

Conclusion - I would try targeting Dudley and one of the low-level FA(Leuer), but my main focus would be trying to trade our logjam of backup PGs for a backup SF. My main target would be Reggie Bullock from the Pistons - they need backup PG after they traded theirs and didn't address it in the draft. Other options - Jerami Grant and Robert Covington from PHI.
 
fishonjazz said:
This sounds like me and some others last year when we wanted to bake the cake.
I was asking the same questions about minutes when people were suggesting overpaying for Danny green, demarre carroll, and wes matthews. You even mention ingles, neto, and withey as being good in the whole limited backup/emergency role. (I said similar things too last summer)

I always thought you were of the opinion that you simply go out and get all the talent possible and don't worry about minutes. If people are unhappy with minutes/roles Just trade em and all that.

Interesting.
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I was under completely different circumstances. Had we acquired Hill last year I would have been singing a different tune... If there were a plethora of combo forwards who could meet our needs I'd be all for signing one. If FAs weren't going to get 2x what they did last year I would be all for it. If we had another year in between now and when our cap situation tightens I'd be in...

Basically its two different circumstances. I was saying last year they should try for the big guns (middleton, green, et al) but if you missed sign another guy like Casspi, Jerebko, Crowder...

I'd still say if you can get Jerebko go ahead and do it, but I wouldn't want to break the bank this year as the market will be crazy overheated. I think this year we are limited to a one year offering unless we find someone we know will be movable.

Ingles, Neto, and Withey are all kind of perfect 10-12 guys. In a pinch they work okay... If we were projecting one of them to get more than 10 minutes a night I think attempting an upgrade is wise.
 
stitches said:
I think the main problems we will have with free agents this summer are the following:
1. We probably are not great destination for the very best FAs
2. We cannot guarantee starting spot or even big minutes for the middle-tier FAs(our roster is relatively full - we have 3 wings, 2-3 PGs, 3 bigs)
3. We might want to limit ourselves to short-term deals, to preserve long-term flexibility

Who would prefer a short-term deal to long term deal or would willingly accept short term deal - either a player who wants to build up his value and hit free agency again or a player at the end of his career when he knows he cannot demand long-term big money deals. No. 2 pretty much eliminates the players who want to build up their value, unless they think they can get enough minutes on this team. Thus the only category of player that fits what we would be offering is - low-mid tier vet at the end of the career(gets final overpay to be a vet on a good team and mentor the young players, rather than demand huge playing time). The more I think about it the less likely I think it is that we get one of the young players coming out of their rookie deals who are considered mid-tier(Solomon Hill, Motiejunas, Crabbe, etc).

I think Luol Deng might get a longer-term contract than we think(3-4 years) and we probably can't offer him that.

Jared Dudley is probably one of the few that makes a TON of sense. He has said that he will be searching good pay and that he thinks he can help a young team and wouldn't demand minutes(can help even from the bench).

The other type of player we might expect getting is the low-tier players that can't afford to be picky about their options and are willing to sign contract to stay in the league.

Conclusion - I would try targeting Dudley and one of the low-level FA(Leuer), but my main focus would be trying to trade our logjam of backup PGs for a backup SF. My main target would be Reggie Bullock from the Pistons - they need backup PG after they traded theirs and didn't address it in the draft. Other options - Jerami Grant and Robert Covington from PHI.
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I'm with you on the Philly guys but not sure what it would cost to pry them away. Dudley has said that he wants to help a young team, but he has also said he wants a three year deal and laughed at a twitter person who said something about $5M a year. I'd offer him a one year $10M deal, with a partially guaranteed second year (say 2.5M). I don't think that gets it done.

One real possibility that people will likely hate... Spurs may need to get off of Diaw's deal... it's basically $7M expiring. We could take him and Simmons into our space if they have a real shot at Durant or Conley.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Ingles, Neto, and Withey are all kind of perfect 10-12 guys. In a pinch they work okay... If we were projecting one of them to get more than 10 minutes a night I think attempting an upgrade is wise.
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This is how I felt last year when I wanted to bake the cake (other than the pg position)

Hayward, burks, hood, exum, Gobert, favors, lyles, booker, burke. That's 9. I was fine with ingles, withey, neto as the 10-12 guys.

I worried about minutes if we picked up a wes Matthews type. Of course I didn't foresee all the injuries.
 
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