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Jazz going after OJ Mayo

If someone can show me how this won't mess up the Jazz's financial plans I'd be way more ok with this move. In principle I'm against this move because I want to see the young guys get minutes and because of cap space. It's really the cap space thing that I'm most interested in.

Or in other words, since I'm kind of an idiot when it comes to how cap space and stuff works, Core4 and others have told me that having a lot of cap space can be extremely valuable come the deadline, as teams want to avoid the luxury tax and would be forced to give up assets (especially draft picks) so the few teams with the cap space (aka the Jazz) can absorb the Shawn Marion contracts of the world and demand a pick in compensation. To me that's spectacular if the Jazz can pull that sort of move off at the deadline. So, would signing Mayo (plus other guys like Demarre who I really want the Jazz to re-sign provided he's not getting insane offers) hinder that plan? That's what I don't know, if getting Mayo still leaves the Jazz with a ton of space and flexibility in the future, especially come this year's trading deadline.

If the Jazz still have that good flexibility, then I'm not that opposed to the move. I like a lot of what Mayo brings to the table. I'm still worried about Burks not getting many minutes though, but the cap space thing is my big issue.
 
The goal is to get good players on the team. OJ Mayo could be a piece for the Jazz, or he could be an asset we trade in the future. I can go either way on this.

It's also possible that the Jazz are just saying things to stir the pot and see how other teams react.
 
I kinda like it. If the Jazz are running more pick and roll he'd be a good guy to have out on the perimeter. Also, all of the previous comments about Foye's D.
 
I thought we were trying to rebuild and develop the young guys? Signing mayo is not that. Besides, he's a chucker. If we hated mo Williams and josh Howard then we are really going to despise mayo.
 
The Thriller said:
I thought we were trying to rebuild and develop the young guys? Signing mayo is not that. Besides, he's a chucker. If we hated mo Williams and josh Howard then we are really going to despise mayo.
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You just said everything 99% of the Mayo haters said.
Nothing new to read here. Just because you watch OJ on ESPN every once in a blue moon don't mean you know OJ.

Nobody here really had no clue what Al Jeffersons game was like before he came here. Find it odd that everybody becomes a basketball thesis once a player comes up.
 
The Thriller said:
I thought we were trying to rebuild and develop the young guys? Signing mayo is not that. Besides, he's a chucker. If we hated mo Williams and josh Howard then we are really going to despise mayo.
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The thriller's voice = vox dei :::> listen to him FFS
 
Nate505 said:
If someone can show me how this won't mess up the Jazz's financial plans I'd be way more ok with this move.
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Signing Mayo to a deal for a few years won't hurt the Jazz's ability to re-up the young guns in any way. By the time Kanter and Favors come due, Mayo becomes trade bait in that scenario.

I can see the developmental and rotation questions, but the cap situation is the last thing to worry about here.
 
BTP said:
Did u watch a lot of Dallas last season? I watched whenever I could and all the game recaps. And it's a bad sign imo when you look selfish and bad on your highlights.
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4th in the NBA in Assists amoungst SG's. Behind Kobe and Harden - who touch the ball every possession.
 
I MUCH prefer Burks, unless they're thinkin' he's a future PG, which seems unlikely. And, I prefer Hayward to play SG. Not a fan of Mayo; even if we get him cheap, he'll sit out his 2nd year wanting a fatter contract! NOT a fan of Mayo...
 
I think I'd like to have Mayo on our team. He passes, he rebounds, he shoots 38% from 3, he's young (25). I don't see what's really not to like about this, other than the standard QQ about playing time for Burks.

The unknown really is his attitude. But he's had a year behind Dirk, so I'd imagine that did him some good. I'm not sure max would be the best, but a Stephen Curry contract would be appropriate.
 
Pay him Kevin Martin Money... hes 25!!!

i dont see how this player handcuffs the jazz moving foward, at worst hes a tradeable asset to a team in salary cap hell.... so whats the downside?

OJ Mayo could be the leading scorer on the jazz, which would open up the game a ton for our bigs...

methinks Hayward benefits the most if we land Mayo

once Mayo gets hot, u must send help or your best defender... meaning hayward can play on the weakside of the offense... where he will thrive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw769HtP07A
 
PKM said:
We're on the same page here, PG_AB.
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I'm on the boat too, Mayo would probably love Utah too. I've said it before, he's from West Virginia. OJ still has tons of potential to blow up.

The main player I want to see us keep of the Core 4 is Derrick Favors. Signing Mayo we still would be able to give DF15 Arab money, and should be able to provide Burke a lucrative deal, also. I mean, we did have Booze, Memo, Deron, and AK all on some hefty deals.. can't see why we can't have Mayo/Burke/Favors/Kanter/Hayward for even cheaper.
 
i defend alot of prospects and unproven players on this site, this player is proven and still walks in the shadow of his draft weaknesses(failures of his college coach, and coaches/ FO from the Grizz)... 'character concerns'

to me attitude is a funny thing, Hayward has a great attitude... right?

but he got punked by the spurs in the playoffs, and instead of adjusting, he crumbled and got worse

17 points in game 1
8 points in game 2
4 points in game 3
0 points in game 4

so if that attitude is what were looking for, we do not want OJ Mayo, hes the opposite of that, he wants the last shot, the next shot, win or lose, u wont ever see Mayo with 'his tail between his legs"

that being said, i think Mayo and Haywards skillsets are complimentary, i think Hayward would be getting lots of assists passing to Mayo and hayward would be getting more wideopen looks than hes seen in previous seasons
 
I don't know. I'm very sceptical about Mayo's play. I think his stats are okay, but don't like his teamplay at all. Watch the buzzer 3 vs OKC. He draws two defender who are airborne. Dirk in his position would see the passing lane, bounce it over to the open man for a high% look. Especially with 4s to play. And I see him play like this very often, where he doesn't find the better positioned open guy and relies solely on his muscle memory with a hand in his face. I just think he'd win too many games vs weak east teams to get a high 2014 pick and cost too much once the team shows improved play and enters contention window.
 
If we can get OJ at the right price this is a no brainer. We simply have to have better shooters for our bigs to operate plus OJ is young and still improving. Burks is not a starter but a solid back up.
 
There's certainly an argument to be made about weighing potential FA signings (OJ, Splitter, Millsap, Copeland) vs. being as bad as possible in 2014. However, I think we all know that the Jazz FO will never tank as bad as some of us hope they might. I expect we'll bring in some quality FA signings.

And if we do, I'd be happy with OJ. He's not the basketball messiah he once thought he was, but he would fill a lot of holes that we have in our backcourt. Shoot from anywhere, create his own shot, can guard the 1,2, and potentially the 3 depending on matchups. And he's polished. There's little doubt he'd be ready to step in, start, and carry a heavy load from day one.

My only hesitation is what it might mean for Burks. I'm still extremely high on him.
 
Of course at the right price is always the most important thing. I just hope that DLindsey brings a certain realism to the decision that I feel has been lacking for the past 5 years or so. People on this board always get frantic and desperate and want to trade the whole team or throw a max contract at anybody and it seems like the FO has done some of that recently. I'm thinking of Marvin and Memo and to some extent, Andrei. All contracts that at the time left me scratching my head. Having said all of this, what I've seen of OJ, if you can get him at 7mil/per or less, I'm on board, anything more and it's that desperate and frantic feeling of doing something just to do something.
 
Spaniard said:
Of course at the right price is always the most important thing. I just hope that DLindsey brings a certain realism to the decision that I feel has been lacking for the past 5 years or so. People on this board always get frantic and desperate and want to trade the whole team or throw a max contract at anybody and it seems like the FO has done some of that recently. I'm thinking of Marvin and Memo and to some extent, Andrei. All contracts that at the time left me scratching my head. Having said all of this, what I've seen of OJ, if you can get him at 7mil/per or less, I'm on board, anything more and it's that desperate and frantic feeling of doing something just to do something.
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The Jazz gave Marvin Williams that Arab money? You smokin that crack, Jack.
 
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