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utahjazzz said:
The one year ban is just too harsh imo.
Every test team did ball tampering and they didn't even punish their players ~ Trescothick, du plesis, atherton, tendulkar
all did it and they hardly got punished by their cricket assosiations. A 3 test matches ban is more appropriate in my opinion.
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Who cares what other countries do, their standards should not be our standards, its called holding yourself to a higher standard, its called integrity, its about having principals, some things are more important than individuals, its about the good of the game and the values we have about our cricket.
 
Douchebag K said:
Just because other countries don’t have standards or ethics doesn’t mean we shouldn’t. Those clowns deserved everything they got for blatant stone cold cheating. And more for being so stupid about it.
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snap!

the douchebag is right.
 
It's a shame we won't have Smith about for awhile, the other two meh... to be honest Ashes is the only time most of us probably care about cricket.
 
dakidmas said:
It's a shame we won't have Smith about for awhile, the other two meh... to be honest Ashes is the only time most of us probably care about cricket.
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Nah what he did was stupid and reckless, as a society we don't punish people enough for that, I reckon the he got what he deserved, as a society we've become to permissive of **** ups.
 
Rubashov said:
Nah what he did was stupid and reckless, as a society we don't punish people enough for that, I reckon the he got what he deserved, as a society we've become to permissive of **** ups.
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Talk it up Ruby. You're letting that inner city Melbourne Greens politics get to you again. (Each to their own btw)
We have a football player in Australia playing while having a conviction for assault hanging over his head (and while he refuses to pay compensation) and we had a couple of players try cheating in a game.

Next time I see Rubio flop I am going to expect to see your outrage on here.

They got punished as a result of the PC police. Total joke.
Commercial decision to save face.

ICC banned them for ONE test. Faf du Plesis has been found guilty of the same offense TWICE and missed one Test match. This was a disgusting decision that was about scapegoating for the 'tone/culture' of the national team which people had decided was too full-on and unsportsmanly.

I think Warner had a brain snap based on the slut shaming his wife was going through and got the *****

The decision to punish them like this was the weakest thing I have seen in sports for a long time. I was shattered that Warner and Smith didn't appeal this arbitrary and unenforceable punishment.

Rant over...
 
dakidmas said:
Full disclosure I'm Australian - I don't really follow teams, more so Aussie players - so have been watching Utah games since Exum was drafted and have been devastated with his injuries over the past 4 seasons, this season I've watched tons of games from both 76ers and Jazz.

Both DM and Simmons are awesome players. Hard to compare due to different positions, body type, game styles, team methodology etc.

One interesting thing is the comparison of the conferences people bring up, it's not a debate that the East is weaker and has been for some time. An interesting stat I looked at was 76ers record vs West compared with Utah vs East, surprised me.

76ers vs West = 18-12 60%
Jazz vs East = 14-16 46%

both teams had identical records against own conference opponents 34-18 65%.

both players awesome, both teams have overachieved, go basketball.
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People will pretend to be happy with your presence here. But unless you rewatch Stockton and Malone highlights each night before bed, you will be derided as an Aussie **** who shags kangaroos and/or koalos.
 
utahjazzz said:
The one year ban is just too harsh imo.
Every test team did ball tampering and they didn't even punish their players ~ Trescothick, du plesis, atherton, tendulkar
all did it and they hardly got punished by their cricket assosiations. A 3 test matches ban is more appropriate in my opinion.
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100% this
 
Rubashov said:
Who cares what other countries do, their standards should not be our standards, its called holding yourself to a higher standard, its called integrity, its about having principals, some things are more important than individuals, its about the good of the game and the values we have about our cricket.
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Says the poll dancing consumer :) Or was it bouncer at the stripclub?

Either way, that was a whole bunch of hogwash...
 
Et tu Brute said:
People will pretend to be happy with your presence here. But unless you rewatch Stockton and Malone highlights each night before bed, you will be derided as an Aussie **** who shags kangaroos and/or koalos.
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Actually, it doesn't matter if you are Stockton's cousin or Malone's father in law, if you are an Aussie you WILL be derided as a kangaroo/koala shagger.
 
Et tu Brute said:
Worst take ever
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So you think Simmons had a good game? I dont think he was awful but for him it was a sub par game. Other players had monster games and won it for them. I would say his impact was probably 4 or 5th most on the team in winning. Advanced stats would agree with me.

Do you think his teammates were not incredible from 3?

Advanced stats from the game show that Simmons had the worst net rating for the game besides TJ and Holmes for his team. He shot 38% for the game, he had 5 turnovers. He did distribute the ball well and had some good passes but most of his assist were just simple passes within the offense to the open guy. The vast majority of his passes that game were to JJ Reddick and Saric coming off of screens that his team got them open for. Those account for over half of his passes all game by the stats. Of all of his assits that game he had 5 to Saric and 3 to both Bellineli and JJ. All of JJ assists were coming of screens open, 2 of Bellinilis were and 3 of Saric's were. Those assits were all plays where Simmons stood there with space dribbling and simply passed to the guy the entire team got open. So Simmons did a good job of playing within the system but those guys hitting big shots were the real impressive part of the win.
 
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Et tu Brute said:
Says the poll dancing consumer :) Or was it bouncer at the stripclub?

Either way, that was a whole bunch of hogwash...
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So having a job and working for a living makes having ethics and principals hogwash? Have you considered that maybe my different working environments has perhaps highlighted the importance of making ethical, principled choices?

Et tu Brute said:
Talk it up Ruby. You're letting that inner city Melbourne Greens politics get to you again. (Each to their own btw)
We have a football player in Australia playing while having a conviction for assault hanging over his head (and while he refuses to pay compensation) and we had a couple of players try cheating in a game.

Next time I see Rubio flop I am going to expect to see your outrage on here.

They got punished as a result of the PC police. Total joke.
Commercial decision to save face.

ICC banned them for ONE test. Faf du Plesis has been found guilty of the same offense TWICE and missed one Test match. This was a disgusting decision that was about scapegoating for the 'tone/culture' of the national team which people had decided was too full-on and unsportsmanly.

I think Warner had a brain snap based on the slut shaming his wife was going through and got the *****

The decision to punish them like this was the weakest thing I have seen in sports for a long time. I was shattered that Warner and Smith didn't appeal this arbitrary and unenforceable punishment.

Rant over...
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Name another Australian captain who is guilty of ball tampering? Why should the absence of standards and values in the NRL or ICC (who are gutless and have been for a very long time) have any baring on what we expect of our national team or cricketers? They reckon this may have cost the ACB as much as 300 million on their current TV deal so a far as saving face goes they haven't done too well.

I have no problem with sledging in fact i enjoy it, its part of the game, like Rubio's flopping, cheating is not. As far as Warner goes, the guy is a ****wit, some bloke says something about his wife and he torches his career, talk about mental disintegration. He should come work with me for a week, he'll cop abuse he's never dreamed of, hell if at least two junkie prison rats don't threaten to kill me a week i'm probably not meeting my KPIs.

Not to punish them is weak, to say we are just as shabby as everyone else would be pathetic, I'm glad they didn't appeal it shows they actually have some insight in to just how badly they ****ed up.
 
Your boy Simmons is getting exposed. He needs a jumpshot or he's toast. He is so lucky he has amazing shooters around him, he's not nearly as good as he thinks he is.
 
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