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Oni traded to Thunder

jom2003 said:
exactly. each second rounder is worth at least 1.5mil and the jazz just gave up one to save well less than that amount.
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At least we "saved" more than the $80k we did with Tucker. This has got to be the dumbest cap team in the league. Why would you keep trading second round picks to save wayyy less than the cash value of the second round pick itself?

It's one thing to be cheap and sell of assets for cash...but how ****ing stupid do you have to be to sell off second round picks and lose cash in the process?
 
jom2003 said:
they can literally sell a future second round pick for 2mil in cash right now to pay for everything. they are literally and figuratively underselling these picks right now.
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The tax savings is what they are after... it is theoretically 2-2.5M depending on their next move.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Imagine if they had just taken Butler with #30 and then bought a second round pick at the end of the draft and signed that guy to a one year deal while waiving Oni.... you are salary neutral... have a different prospect you may like better on a potentially more valuable contract because it would have a team option on the second year. You have JB on a 4 year deal now and can be a little more patient with him if you need to. Go ahead and decline that Dok option too.... I just saved the Jazz a couple picks and some dough too!
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they need to hire you to be their tax expert
 
We waive a guy and immediately get our first guy in protocols.... the Churro is pissed.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
The NBA would step in and reduce a competitive advantage they have? I think it cuts both ways for OKC. When they want to turn the firsts into real players a team will ask for 3 firsts instead of 2.... I mean you have the picks.... give em up.

Philly and Boston didn't capitalize on their excess picks.... I think OKC will. We've not really seen one guy fully execute and see the "process" through from cradle to grave.
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Im just saying they should cap how many draft picks a team can trade for the same way they cap how many picks a team can trade out.
 
NUMBERICA said:
I don’t understand this at all. What the **** are they doing.

There has to be something we don’t know at this point, like that it is unlikely to convey or something? Like… what? How does this jive with picking up the option on the worst 1st round selection since… uhh… I honestly don’t even know when or who.
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we are getting fleeced by OKC and that's what happened. unless we dealt with OKC to build a good FO connections like we did with cavs and there are future OKC trade coming, i don't see how they recover from this. it just does not look good
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
The tax savings is what they are after... it is theoretically 2-2.5M depending on their next move.
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They could have paid $1.1 Mil like the Lakers did to get off the hook for the tax....but no, we've got to do things the Utah Jazz way. Trade the second round pick, which is worth $2M+ if it's a garbage pick to do the same thing.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Im just saying they should cap how many draft picks a team can trade for the same way they cap how many picks a team can trade out.
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That also hampers deals.... In general I am for less trade restrictions. If a team wants to pile up draft picks then go for it. They aren't the worst team in the league and are better than some teams trying to be good now.
 
can we qualify for hardship exemption if we have roster spot available? if we are forced to sign guys to cover for a potential covid outbreak and their salary counts towards our LT cap, it makes this Oni move even dumber
 
I almost think there is a follow up deal here... but have been burned by that thinking before.

Couple of potential follow up deals.... there is a guy they want to sign for the rest of the year like Danuel House so save a little now while doing a 10 day dance and eventually sign the guy.

The other is a potential 1 for 2 deal so now you are back at 14 and remove the Oni waiver hit.

Finally - In the most unlikely of potential deals.... they have a guy with a medium salary like Garrett Temple, Torrey Craig, or David Nwaba that they are willing to take into their trade exception.... so adds a bunch of salary and Oni's hold was removed to clear a little budget for a bigger spend. Again.... super duper unlikely.
 
jom2003 said:
can we qualify for hardship exemption if we have roster spot available? if we are forced to sign guys to cover for a potential covid outbreak and their salary counts towards our LT cap, it makes this Oni move even dumber
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Ferguson_Mellochill said:
Well, if we were getting Kenrich Williams, he probably would have been included in a bigger deal...

I wouldn't be shocked if they brought back Exum, tbh.
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No damn way. Exum is ded and even when he isn't ded he sux. Get someone new instead of a rerun.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I also think the NBA needs to do something about OKC owning every single draft pick in existence for the next 1000 years.

One team having that much draft assets cant be good for the league and how easily teams can get deals done.
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OKC is maybe the most fascinating team to watch over the next few years precisely because of their fanatical accumulation of draft picks. So, I say let the experiment play out before arbitrarily eliminating the OKC strategy.
 
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