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Since this is "All Things Politics", what do you all think of the Utah social media bill set to go into effect March next year?

SB0152

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(1) Beginning March 1, 2024, a social media company may not permit a Utah resident who is a minor to be an account holder on the social media company's social media platform unless the Utah resident has the express consent of a parent or guardian.
(2) Notwithstanding any provision of this chapter, a social media company may not permit a Utah resident who is a minor to hold or open an account on a social media platform if the minor is ineligible to hold or open an account under any other provision of state or federal law.
(3) (a) Beginning March 1, 2024, a social media company shall verify the age of an existing or new Utah account holder and, if the existing or new account holder is a minor, confirm that a minor has consent as required under Subsection (1): (i) for a new account, at the time the Utah resident opens the account; or (ii) for a Utah account holder who has not provided age verification as required under this section, within 14 calendar days of the Utah account holder's attempt to access the account. (b) If a Utah account holder fails to meet the verification requirements of this section within the required time period, the social media company shall deny access to the account: (i) upon the expiration of the time period; and (ii) until all verification requirements are met.
(4) In accordance with Title 63G, Chapter 3, Utah Administrative Rulemaking Act, the division, with consideration of stakeholder input, shall make rules to: (a) establish processes or means by which a social media company may meet the age verification requirements of this chapter; (b) establish acceptable forms or methods of identification, which may not be limited to a valid identification card issued by a government entity; (c) establish requirements for providing confirmation of the receipt of any information provided by a person seeking to verify age under this chapter; (d) establish processes or means to confirm that a parent or guardian has provided consent for the minor to open or use an account as required under this section
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Seems to me that the most likely outcome is that the state gets sued, a preliminary injunction gets granted preventing this from going into effect next year, the state wastes a decent chunk of taxpayer money fighting this in the courts for years before ultimately losing, and nothing happens. But I could be wrong - curious what others think.
 
gandalfe said:
Tours are freely available, and, while they do have a list of prohibited items, weirdly, cocaine isn't among them. (I mean, it along with other illicit substances probably are, it's just not listed.) Cigarettes are, however, as well as, and I kid you not, Martial Arts. Not Martial Arts equipment, but just Martial Arts.

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"These hands are registered as deadly weapons in 4 states and the District of Columbia!"
 
MT Steve said:
Since this is "All Things Politics", what do you all think of the Utah social media bill set to go into effect March next year?

SB0152

le.utah.gov le.utah.gov

Key excerpts:




Seems to me that the most likely outcome is that the state gets sued, a preliminary injunction gets granted preventing this from going into effect next year, the state wastes a decent chunk of taxpayer money fighting this in the courts for years before ultimately losing, and nothing happens. But I could be wrong - curious what others think.
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Utah is a red state so as a result, there’s no stupid moral windmill too large that our state government won’t throw taxpayer money at.

It’s completely unenforceable and is the opposite of small government but it definitely throws red meat at the party’s base. This is valuable for a governor who’s desperate to avoid a primary from his right flank. It’ll result in a lawsuit from tech companies that’ll cost the state even more money to litigate. But what do they care, it’s not their money that they’re lighting on fire, right?

You know what does harm kids? Bigotry, poverty, and unregulated guns. If we really wanted to tackle issues using data in the state, we’d boost counseling services, provide greater support for the LGBT community (instead of exploiting it for political gain), bolster the safety net (instead of giving tax cuts to the rich and cutting school breakfast), and start ****ing regulating the ****ing guns.
 
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Tours are freely available, and, while they do have a list of prohibited items, weirdly, cocaine isn't among them. (I mean, it along with other illicit substances probably are, it's just not listed.) Cigarettes are, however, as well as, and I kid you not, Martial Arts. Not Martial Arts equipment, but just Martial Arts.

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I also like how they immediately heavily emphasise that it could have been any one of practically thousands of people !!! Seeing as it’s a “heavily trafficked area”. And you know, there’s no security cameras or any kind of resources or way to track down how it happened. Lolz.

Gotta love US politics. Bare **** at the White House one day, coke the next. Next thing it’ll be Trump conducting guided tours of Mar a Lago wearing only a nappy handing out flyers with the nuclear codes
 
Who the hell cares? Someone left their nose candy in the White House. It’s not like someone got into the White House with an AR15. This is a nothingburger story along the same lines as Obama’s tan suit. The fact that this is getting far more attention from our media than Trump releasing Obama’s address so one of his “very fine people” could attempt to assassinate him just goes to show how biased the media is towards republicans.
 
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Who the hell cares? Someone left their nose candy in the White House. It’s not like someone got into the White House with an AR15. This is a nothingburger story along the same lines as Obama’s tan suit. The fact that this is getting far more attention from our media than Trump releasing Obama’s address so one of his “very fine people” could attempt to assassinate him just goes to show how biased the media is towards republicans.
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Well, I certainly have no problem understanding why this story is getting some run. It’s the White House. Of course the media will run with it. It’s tailor made for headlines.
 
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Well, I certainly have no problem understanding why this story is getting some run. It’s the White House. Of course the media will run with it. It’s tailor made for headlines.
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The former president who has a history of this sort of thing, released his predecessor’s address so one of his nutcakes could try assassinating him. And the media gives us crickets. I guess we’ve all grown numb to his nastiness. The Overton window for our media has shifted so far to the right, much to the benefit of the fascists so eager to take over.
 
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Wow!

View: https://twitter.com/dkthomp/status/1677308976126361607?s=46&t=QT7YFlZ_IlHq81PpZAhKgw

This is great! He definitely wasn’t my first choice but who can argue with the results? And I get that he might not personally be responsible for 100 percent of these gains but he certainly deserves some credit, right? I’m definitely not tired from all of this winning! Although, I may need to buy a new wallet! If this is a recession, I hope it continues!

If this trend continues, I just don’t see for the life of me why anyone would want to return to the vile vomit that lost millions of jobs in 2020 while he told people to stick flashlights up their butts. Especially since he’s going to be embattled in countless court cases over the next few years.
 
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If this trend continues, I just don’t see for the life of me why anyone would want to return to the vile vomit that lost millions of jobs in 2020 while he told people to stick flashlights up their butts.
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While I agree with you that no one should want to vote for Trump, I honestly can't think of what he (or the government generally) could have done to change the economy in 2020 for the better.
 
As has been stated before, this has very little to do with the president realistically. Although they always take credit. Part of this is a result of the rebound after the declines during COVID, and the wage growth aspect is more than a little bit a result of many states upping their minimum wages, as well as wage competition due to lower unemployment. And in the end a lot this is driven by a factor that will really begin to haunt America in the coming decades, which is the fact that we save and invest on a personal level at a lower rate than the majority of the top 20 developed nations, and our aging population is the worst-prepared for retirement of any developed nation as we have a ridiculously insufficient social safety net, which other nations have covered much more effectively than us. We better be ready to absorb the aging work force and the resultant likely drop-off in productivity as we push people to work longer and longer since fewer and fewer can afford any kind of retirement. Even my parents, who had planned as well as you could on a middle-class income, both worked nearly into their 80's. This is all window-dressing for debts we are incurring to be paid later by everyone in our society in ways we are neither anticipating nor planning for.

I am glad to see the wage gap lessening, although it took heavy government regulation at the state level and a pandemic to do it. Cannot see that being repeated so likely it is a market correction that will drop flat again and begin to widen as we have already seen. We need better mechanisms to tie wages to corporate profits in order to keep things balanced going forward. COLAs should be in the neighborhood of 1.5X the rate of inflation, not 1/2 of it, and should be mandatory at the very least. Or it should be a minimum of 1/2 of average corporate revenue growth for a given industry. Are you contributing to a 20% average revenue growth in your company for their industry? Then you should be entitled to a 10% raise at a minimum. Something like that has to be initiated to keep wages in line with corporate profit growth and inflation. I am NOT saying THIS is the solution, so if anyone wants to debate these EXACT points, feel free, but you are debating with yourself. I am just spit-balling, and stating again that something LIKE this needs to happen if we want sustainable wages that provide for a living for the majority of Americans AND some kind of future for retirement as we live longer and longer as a species.

To take that a step further, speaking as a nihilist who believes we are merely a cancer, growing uncontrollably on the planet and needlessly destroying life to sustain our own, maybe we need to stop with the medical advancements to extend our lifespans when the added years are never as productive, nor of a similar quality, as the years before. Once we reach a point we can keep someone alive for an extra 15 years, but at a nearly unlivable quality of life, what have we really accomplished other than further diluting our resources and burdening the younger generations to care for us as we age to points where we can no longer care or provide for ourselves, and then live that way for added decades. Maybe Logan's Run wasn't that far off in their logic.
 
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