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Trump has been removed from the Colorado ballot (but not really)

i think you're deliberately mischaracterising what i'm saying because you hate him so much. That's cool, i'm gonna leave it now
No. I'm telling you what I'M saying.
It doesn't matter if he is convicted. Nothing changes

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So I went to my sisters house last saturday night to watch UFC 96. The main even was leon edwards vs colby covington. Covington is a big time trumper. He wore a MAGA hat signed by donald trump on his walk into the octagon.
In the run-up to the fight, Covington revealed how he had taken advice from former president Donald Trump, and tried to wind up Edwards by telling him his murdered father was “in hell”. "I'm bringing you to the seventh layer of hell," Covington said to Edwards. "We'll say 'what's up' to your dad while we're there."
As for the actual fight. It went 5 rounds. 25 minutes. Covington probably won about 3 of those 25 minutes. When the final bell rang Covington pranced around with his arms raised like he actually thought he won. All three judges gave Edwards a unanimous and easy decision victory. When Covington got interviewed after losing he complained that he actually won the fight. The fight was stolen from him. He said he wasn't even touched in the fight and it was the easiest fight of his career. As he was saying this blood was running down his face and his left leg was swollen and black and blue. Then he starts spouting off about trump 2024 and how trump is going to come back stronger just like I did (despite the fact that he just decisively lost) and fix all the problems in the country and how great trump is and how close he and trump are blah blah blah. He ends the interview by saying to the crowd "ya'll are some punk *** bitches, **** you" Trump is sitting in the crowd with kid rock (another scumbag) just loving it.

Perfect example of MAGA. Clueless, classless, losers.
 
I have. It didn't work.
Yeaahhhh. Same. Burgess is my rep. Lee is one of my senators. They fail at meeting even the lowest of standards. For a while Burgess just sent all phone calls to voicemail and then his voicemail was full. Lee responds sometimes, but they’re copied and pasted troll posts.
 
So I went to my sisters house last saturday night to watch UFC 96. The main even was leon edwards vs colby covington. Covington is a big time trumper. He wore a MAGA hat signed by donald trump on his walk into the octagon.
In the run-up to the fight, Covington revealed how he had taken advice from former president Donald Trump, and tried to wind up Edwards by telling him his murdered father was “in hell”. "I'm bringing you to the seventh layer of hell," Covington said to Edwards. "We'll say 'what's up' to your dad while we're there."
As for the actual fight. It went 5 rounds. 25 minutes. Covington probably won about 3 of those 25 minutes. When the final bell rang Covington pranced around with his arms raised like he actually thought he won. All three judges gave Edwards a unanimous and easy decision victory. When Covington got interviewed after losing he complained that he actually won the fight. The fight was stolen from him. He said he wasn't even touched in the fight and it was the easiest fight of his career. As he was saying this blood was running down his face and his left leg was swollen and black and blue. Then he starts spouting off about trump 2024 and how trump is going to come back stronger just like I did (despite the fact that he just decisively lost) and fix all the problems in the country and how great trump is and how close he and trump are blah blah blah. He ends the interview by saying to the crowd "ya'll are some punk *** bitches, **** you" Trump is sitting in the crowd with kid rock (another scumbag) just loving it.

Perfect example of MAGA. Clueless, classless, losers.
TDS!
 
That part is simply untrue and you know it. As for the rest of your list, none of that is insurrection.
Sorry he used the word walk instead of march lol

Ya the rest was simply trying to steal an election and stage a coup.
We should totally re elect people who do that.
Thank goodness secret service wouldn't allow him to join his supporters when they were attacking like he wanted to.

Also, him sitting around watching the attack and doing nothing to stop it makes him an accomplice to me. I know you will disagree since your opinions will always attempt to make Trump look as innocent as possible.


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Its just so strange that anyone would want to give trump the benefit of the doubt after his extremely long history of criming and douchebaggery.
trump is literally the guy that a ufc fighter called up to get advice from before a fight and the advice trump gave was "you should talk **** about your opponents dead father"
Guys, trump is a piece of ****. Come on, we all know this.
 
Its just so strange that anyone would want to give trump the benefit of the doubt after his extremely long history of criming and douchebaggery.
trump is literally the guy that a ufc fighter called up to get advice from before a fight and the advice trump gave was "you should talk **** about your opponents dead father"
Guys, trump is a piece of ****. Come on, we all know this.
But but but Fish! I’ve been defending him for now almost 8 years. Why stop now? And if I admit that he’s a piece of ****, then I gotta admit that the libs, principled conservatives, and normal people with common sense, you know the people I perceive to be my eternal enemy, were right about him all along. And that’s just a bridge too far. It makes them feel bad and dumb about themselves, revealing the insecurities and prejudices that left them vulnerable to Trump’s siren call in the first place.

Besides, being a dick is so much fun! I get to own people I hate! I act my worst self and if I’m ever held accountable, I can blame democrats, the judges, the media, etc for my fate.

 

“We do not reach these conclusions lightly,” the majority opinion read. “We are mindful of the magnitude and weight of the questions now before us. We are likewise mindful of our solemn duty to apply the law, without fear or favor, and without being swayed by public reaction to the decisions that the law mandates we reach.”

A lower court judge previously found that Trump engaged in insurrection but agreed with his lawyers’ arguments that Section 3 does not apply to the president. The state Supreme Court majority disagreed.

“President Trump asks us to hold that Section 3 disqualifies every oathbreaking insurrectionist except the most powerful one and that it bars oath-breakers from virtually every office, both state and federal, except the highest one in the land,” the majority opinion wrote. “Both results are inconsistent with the plain language and history of Section 3.”

Conservative attorney George Conway told MSNBC that he had been “skeptical” until seeing how “weak” the dissents were in the case — even as he acknowledged that the U.S. Supreme Court may overturn the ruling anyway.

“I have been a little skeptical of this theory until last night," Conway said. "Now I'm completely sold. I was sold by the dissents. I have been skeptical of this theory not because I found anything that [legal experts] said was wrong…I just thought, well, it's a little too good to be true. I really do want to see Donald Trump beaten at the polls, so I have been a little skeptical.

"Then I read the dissents," he added. "They are so unbelievably weak that I'm now convinced there really isn't an argument against what the Supreme Court did."

Conway argued that Section 3 does not mention requiring a conviction and none of the dissenting judges disagreed with the finding that Trump engaged in insurrection. (huh, even the dissenting judges think trump engaged in insurrection)

"It's strong evidence," he said. "You don't see the dissents challenging those findings at all, and in fact, there's no basis to challenge the findings. When you go to the majority opinion and read the 30 or 40 pages on what happened on Jan. 6 and what Donald Trump did before and during Jan. 6, there's no dispute. We saw it on television, and we know what happened. He engaged in an insurrection. He wanted this to happen, and not only that, there's another provision that talks about giving aid and comfort to enemies of the Constitution. He did that, he was an enemy of the Constitution. If this decision gets overturned, it's not going to be on the basis of the factual findings."

Retired conservative federal Judge J. Michael Luttig called the ruling a “masterful judicial opinion of constitutional law” that “will stand the test of the time.”

Former acting Solicitor General Neal Katyal argued that the ruling “follows pretty much directly from the text of the Constitution. So you know, someone like Donald Trump who claims to be a strict textualist when it comes to the Constitution has been hoisted on his own petard.”

Katyal predicted that the Supreme Court may vote to uphold the ruling, noting that the court ruled against his post-2020 election challenges and executive privilege claims.

“So, you know, I think that a fair-minded reading of this provision really compels this result,” he told MSNBC, adding that the Colorado Supreme Court “took pains to say, you know – this is just a quote from the opinion – ‘we’re mindful in our solemn duty to apply the law without fear or favor, and without being swayed by public reaction to the decisions that the law mandates we reach.’ And I think that the United States Supreme Court would apply that same standard. Trump will be disqualified from the ballot.”


“I think this case will be handled quickly, I think it could be 9-0 in the Supreme Court for Trump,” former Trump White House lawyer Ty Cobb said in an interview on CNN. “I do believe it could be 9-0 because I think the law is clear,” he added.

“The real key issue in this case is — is Trump an officer in the United States in the context in which that term is used in the Article Three of the 14th Amendment,” he explained. “And in 2010, Chief Justice Roberts explained in free enterprise that people don’t vote for officers of the United States.” (So apparently this trump lawyer thinks the supreme court will go against this measure 9-0. But not because he doesn't think trump engaged in insurrection. He thinks that according to the constitutional law its ok for presidents to engage in insurrection and still be on the ballot. Just not anybody else. presidents are above the law.)

If the president is not an officer of the United States...then the 14th amendment should be interpreted to read that "the president is the only elected official that has the ability to engage in an insurrection against the United States".
 
Sorry he used the word walk instead of march lol
That wasn't the word in your fantasy I was taking issue with but if you say that walking constitutes insurrection, there was definitely walking involved in the BLM riots.

The point is the decision out of the Colorado State Supreme Court opened the genie bottle box to let the cat out. Hopefully there is enough responsibility elsewhere to repair the damage but in 2023 that seems to be a big ask.
 
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I like this from the comments section of the article. he left out some stuff (like trump university and stealing from his stop the steal fund and build the wall fund and a bunch more to be honest but it would take too long to list everything)

Oh brethren, let he who hasn't porkked a porn star 3 months before

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the birth of his 5th child with his 3rd wife,

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before being impeached twice,

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found guilty of stealing from his own children cancer charity,

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found guilty of a sex offense,

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after being recorded bragging he would "grab their psy"

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tried to overthrow the USA govt,

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ending with 91 felony counts in 4 indictments

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cast the first stone!!!
 
That wasn't the word in your fantasy I was taking issue with but if you say that walking constitutes insurrection, there was definitely walking involved in the BLM riots.

The point is the decision out of the Colorado State Supreme Court opened the genie bottle box to let the cat out. Hopefully there is enough responsibility elsewhere to repair the damage but in 2023 that seems to be a big ask.
I never said anything constitutes insurrection silly. i was simply pointing out what trump did and his involvement everything that took place. Seems that judges and lawyers and legal experts are the ones saying what trump did constitutes insurrection. But I didn't. i simply pointed out trumps involvement in what legal experts say was insurrection.

I doubt any judges, lawyers or legal experts would say that biden or his family making money off his name constitues insurrection though.
 
That wasn't the word in your fantasy I was taking issue with but if you say that walking constitutes insurrection, there was definitely walking involved in the BLM riots.

The point is the decision out of the Colorado State Supreme Court opened the genie bottle box to let the cat out. Hopefully there is enough responsibility elsewhere to repair the damage but in 2023 that seems to be a big ask.
As for the blm riots, i already agreed with you that the person responsible for those riots shouldn't have his name on any ballot. I think that cop is in jail anyways so its kinda moot.
 
I doubt any judges, lawyers or legal experts would say that biden or his family making money off his name constitues insurrection though.
Biden's corruption isn't insurrection but you could easily make the case that Kamala Harris's tweet to "if you're able to, chip in now to help post bail for those protesting" during the BLM riots while rioters were attacking government buildings was involvement in insurrection.
 
Biden's corruption isn't insurrection but you could easily make the case that Kamala Harris's tweet to "if you're able to, chip in now to help post bail for those protesting" during the BLM riots while rioters were attacking government buildings was involvement in insurrection.
You could but a judge would laugh. I put out a huge list of trumps involvement. If trump made one tweet then he wouldn't be in this situation. Not samesies. If she doesnt make that tweet then the riots still happen. If trump doesn't do what he did then the attack never happens. Trump was/is responsible. Kamala wasn't and isnt. Its incredibly clear to non idiots.
Im done with your stupidity.
 
You could but a judge would laugh. I put out a huge list of trumps involvement. If trump made one tweet then he wouldn't be in this situation. Not samesies. If she doesnt make that tweet then the riots still happen. If trump doesn't do what he did then the attack never happens. Trump was/is responsible. Kamala wasn't and isnt. Its incredibly clear to non idiots.
Im done with your stupidity.
The rule isn't about leading or instigating or responsibility. Simple involvement all that is required for disqualification. Last year this same provision was used to disqualify Otero County, New Mexico, Commissioner Couy Griffin. Maybe this will come as news to you but Couy Griffin isn't the mastermind initiating the riot.
 
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