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Keyonte George Hype & Appreciation Thread

framer said:
Keyonte and Carter were picked at 16 and 18, EXACTLY where you pick players of their type. We just moved 2 combo guards and added 1. I still think they are going to try to run Carter at the point.
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One of Key, Carter, or Collier needs to turn into a starting caliber PG. If Collier can learn how to make 36% (league average) of his threes on 4-5 attempts per game, I think he's an above average starting PG. That might be asking too much.

Aesthetically Carter just looks like a modern day NBA point guard to me. If his quick release and shooting percentages carry over to the NBA, I could see the playmaking coming more naturally for him given NBA spacing. Seems like the leadership and drive are there.

I have no idea on Keyonte. He has all the tools to do it. I'm hoping that clearing out Sexton and Clarkson is a bit of an opportunity for him to take the reigns. If you ask me, Sexton was not the right veteran to have alongside Key these past couple years. Sexton is too early in his NBA career to start focusing on developing/helping the next guy. Plus, it didn't seem like the coaching staff saw Key as a PG for the second half of last season. Mental, leadership, focus, defense.......all question marks.

Literally just one of these guys has to hit and it will provide a lot more hope for the future.
 
kcgar said:
If Keyonte can up his defense to mediumish in the league and not get so much tunnel vision then, I am still on board. I do think his efficiency will go up. Also, I feel like he is better when he is off-ball.
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The issue for me is that if he's off-ball, he's probably going to be guarding a wing as opposed to a PG. We're automatically at a size/length disadvantage. Do we want a 6'3" off-ball gunner as a foundational piece?
 
AlaskanAssassin said:
The issue for me is that if he's off-ball, he's probably going to be guarding a wing as opposed to a PG. We're automatically at a size/length disadvantage. Do we want a 6'3" off-ball gunner as a foundational piece?
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Ultimately, if we are going to get good, he will eventually slide in as 6th man and is not a starter. Replaces Clarkson. Also, it is Clayton, not Carter that you are referring to in your other posts
 
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NUMBERICA said:
The next time Keyonte is an average defender will be the first time.
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Touche. However, this is hoping he will get there for the first time. I am a defense first person, so it pains me to watch him. I will give him one more season to get better at defense and if not, I will be completely done.
 
NUMBERICA said:
lol, I can’t think of many worse people to show their ways to Ace than ****ing Keyonte. I want him gone specifically because I don’t want him helping Ace build/reinforce bad habits.

As evidenced, “Just be Ace” is terrible advice.
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will hardy has often talked about how coachable keyonte is, how willing he is to learn, how he picks things up, and now we're learning that he's first one in, last one out, during practices/workouts, etc. key isn't perfect, but if you think he doesn't have solid attributes that younger players can learn from, perhaps pull your head out of the sand.
 
NUMBERICA said:
lol, I can’t think of many worse people to show their ways to Ace than ****ing Keyonte. I want him gone specifically because I don’t want him helping Ace build/reinforce bad habits.

As evidenced, “Just be Ace” is terrible advice.
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Dude, cmon. It's Summer League. Ace should just be Ace at this point. He has to learn and the best way to learn is to not overthink at the start and let the lumps come then adjust. You are being dramatic.
 
I think he can be very good offensively, but chances of being starter level is slim with his defense. You pretty much have to be all star level to do that. He likely falls closer to the Monk/Sexton scale of things and that might not be worth a full MLE nowadays.
 
AlaskanAssassin said:
One of Key, Carter, or Collier needs to turn into a starting caliber PG. If Collier can learn how to make 36% (league average) of his threes on 4-5 attempts per game, I think he's an above average starting PG. That might be asking too much.

Aesthetically Carter just looks like a modern day NBA point guard to me. If his quick release and shooting percentages carry over to the NBA, I could see the playmaking coming more naturally for him given NBA spacing. Seems like the leadership and drive are there.

I have no idea on Keyonte. He has all the tools to do it. I'm hoping that clearing out Sexton and Clarkson is a bit of an opportunity for him to take the reigns. If you ask me, Sexton was not the right veteran to have alongside Key these past couple years. Sexton is too early in his NBA career to start focusing on developing/helping the next guy. Plus, it didn't seem like the coaching staff saw Key as a PG for the second half of last season. Mental, leadership, focus, defense.......all question marks.

Literally just one of these guys has to hit and it will provide a lot more hope for the future.
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Good post other than all the Carters in there. (Clayton)
I agree with all this.
If I had to pick one of the three to end up being an all star one day im going with keyonte just because of his size/athleticism and beautiful looking shot. Plus he is extremely confident (though that could be a detriment.) He is also very good at getting to the line. I also remember when he first started getting big minutes in his rookie that he looked like a great facilitator/passer.

Its just hard to evaluate players while tanking.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
pretty fun highlights. the nice thing about an inefficient player's highlights is they never miss.

i had forgotten about the block on kd's dunk attempt at 2:07 and i hadn't seen the dunk against indiana at the 6:00 mark - more impressive than his fake dunk on duren, imo.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YuQD-ZA3Rg
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I believe the dunk at the 2:25 mark (over Duren) was ranked in the top 3 dunks in the entire nba for the entire season last year. iirc
 
Keyonte George Defensive ranks:

RAPM: 4th
xRAPM: 1st
DARKO: 4th
EPM: 2nd
LEBRON: 4th
VPM: 1st

Anyone care to guess what the direction of good is?
 
KqWIN said:
Keyonte George Defensive ranks:

RAPM: 4th
xRAPM: 1st
DARKO: 4th
EPM: 2nd
LEBRON: 4th
VPM: 1st

Anyone care to guess what the direction of good is?
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The Jazz had 4 of the 10 worst defenders in the NBA in their rotation last year (Keyonte, Sexton, Sensabaugh, and Cody) and I wonder how often that's happened.
 
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