He does have the green light to do those things. He freaking drove to the basket from 20 feet last game and our team finds him in the post for post-ups.
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He does have the green light to do those things. He freaking drove to the basket from 20 feet last game and our team finds him in the post for post-ups.
Hotdog
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I still see a guy who is over looked a lot rolling to the hoop, and he takes zero mid range shots. He's not taking them, because he either doesn't have the green light, or doesn't dare. He can hit free throws, so I don't think it's a stretch to say he can't hit a few.
I hate how players will get pegged as only capable of certain things. How about trying to teach them how, instead of assuming they aren't capable.
If I was the coach, I would be telling Rudy to shoot 5 mid range shots a game, and have him practice shooting all the time. His defensive potential is great enough that it's worth the time and pain to go through his initial struggles. We aren't playing for anything this year anyways. And who know, maybe he can hit those shots and it makes you better.
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Yep
Darkwing Duck
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Video 5 here shows why he's not passed the ball a whole lot on the pick and roll. https://on.nba.com/1qUlZcb
Video 2 shows driving issues here. https://on.nba.com/1qY974V
Gobert's longer shots: https://on.nba.com/1qY9H2B https://on.nba.com/1qYa2Co https://on.nba.com/1qYa6lC
framer
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He needs to be squaring up to the basket and stop screwing around with those hook shots. Who the hell is going to block his shot if he shoots normally? Keep the ball up high, bring the outside foot square and shoot from in front of your forehead. I refuse to believe he is incapable of doing that.
Stifle Tower
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I'll bet he works on his shooting every practice. I think he is FAR ahead of where he was last year. He's made some finger rolls and some layups. The fact he even tries hooks or taking it to the basket every once in awhile is a big improvement. And he's improved his passing. IMO, he looks a lot better in December than he did in November.
Lakers_Slapper
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He isn't going to be a star, but he doesnt have too to be effective. His job is to play defense and learn his weaknesses. He is not going to develop an outer-mid range shot, but he doesn't need to. Just needs to work hard at D. Thats what he's there for.
Agreed, the mid-range shot would be a luxury. Not useful yet although in the long run to get a semiworking jumpshot à la Noah or Chandler would be nice, but he's got time for that. What is needed is to continue the general improvement trajectory : stay focused in defense, box out, block access to the hoop, improve awareness on offense (when to pass, when and where to roll or cut, etc...). The key next step though will be some proper hook shot. He has been improving his back to the basket game, using his surprising combination of length and quickness for spin moves leading to finger rolls. But when properly defended, he hasn't been able release a clean hook shot, which with his size he should be able to. I am sure he is practicing it daily though and will have the opportunity to try it on. Once he gets that moving he will have the nex dimension in his game.
b_line
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Gobert doesn't need a midrange game. He just needs to be able to not drop the ball half the time it is passed to him. He could score 12-15 ppg on putbacks and buckets within five feet. He is athletic enough to copy Tyson Chandler's game 100%. The problem for this team is that Tyson Chandler looks great when he has Dirk next to him, but otherwise he jams up offenses.
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He has the capability to be a star based solely on defense. I think he offense is already better than Ben Wallace's ever was. He needs to adjust his timing and court spacing, but once he does he will be an even bigger force on D. He is very athletic for his size. He is already better offensively that I think anyone anticipated, and if he can be consistent within the rim-6 feet out area, he will excel. With his size, once he gets confidence, I think he will be one of our best players. He should strive to be on the all-defensive team each year.
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I also expect him to continue to be one of the hardest workers in the offseason and come in even bigger, stronger and more explosive next year.
The two huge positives for Gobert's offensive potential is that he can hit FT"s and I think he has some natural passing aptitude.
His FT ability may indicate he can shoot midrange shots down the road.
Bottom line is that he has to get at least a bit stronger in base and hand strength.
His FT ability may indicate he can shoot midrange shots down the road.
Bottom line is that he has to get at least a bit stronger in base and hand strength.
Coach Ellis
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As a 2nd year NBA player transitioning from the European game, I'm really pleased with his physical development and improvement this year. I'm excited to see what the future holds for him because he's proven to be an extremely hard working and driven individual. I expect that to translate into improvements in his physical development as well as refinement in his offensive and defensive games.
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Transition from Euroball is a talking point excuse and a myth. You do not need make bad excuse for Gobert.
Only place he has improved is not biting on EVERY pump fake. Big whoop.
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Gobert apparently yelled at Kanter last night about a defensive rotation. I just love this guy... he has that fire.
Also, why do we need him to have a mid-range shot? All I want from him on offense is to tip in misses, catch and dunk lob passes, set great screens, and make good passes. He's already good enough from the line that you can't go to hack a Gobert. Rudy has the potential to be the best defensive player in the league... that is where he has the most value.
Also, why do we need him to have a mid-range shot? All I want from him on offense is to tip in misses, catch and dunk lob passes, set great screens, and make good passes. He's already good enough from the line that you can't go to hack a Gobert. Rudy has the potential to be the best defensive player in the league... that is where he has the most value.
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Why do people keep saying Gobert doesn't need to develop a shot? Every single person on the court should be able to some what shoot the ball.
The longer you wait to teach him to do it, and give him the opportunity to try it, then that's just that much longer before he's ready to be a really good player.
Let's not make the same mistakes we did with guys like Favors, Burks, and Kanter, and have him always be behind in terms of development.
The Jazz have this weird approach of, you aren't gonna play if you aren't a mistake free player. Except for lacking defense. Weak defense will never get you pulled out of the game. It's always, do you look like a professional. Can you just act like you know where you are supposed to be. Missed shots and no defense, no big deal, we'll make you the permanent starter. Hustle your *** off, play defense, but run a couple plays wrong, well then you are a permanent bench player. Nevermind the idea that you might be able to learn how to play if given some time and are taught how to. No, we expect you to know your **** in the offense from day one, don't really care how you impact a game or if you even care.
I'm just ranting. I have no idea where I was going with that
The longer you wait to teach him to do it, and give him the opportunity to try it, then that's just that much longer before he's ready to be a really good player.
Let's not make the same mistakes we did with guys like Favors, Burks, and Kanter, and have him always be behind in terms of development.
The Jazz have this weird approach of, you aren't gonna play if you aren't a mistake free player. Except for lacking defense. Weak defense will never get you pulled out of the game. It's always, do you look like a professional. Can you just act like you know where you are supposed to be. Missed shots and no defense, no big deal, we'll make you the permanent starter. Hustle your *** off, play defense, but run a couple plays wrong, well then you are a permanent bench player. Nevermind the idea that you might be able to learn how to play if given some time and are taught how to. No, we expect you to know your **** in the offense from day one, don't really care how you impact a game or if you even care.
I'm just ranting. I have no idea where I was going with that
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People are just saying that in order for him to be good, he doesn't NEED to be able to shoot.
Ben Wallace was good, Tyson Chandler was good, Mark Eaton was good.
It's would be great if he could develop a shot like Marc gasol it something but he can still be a good player without a good outside shot.
I don't think anyone is saying they dint want him to be a good shooter or anything