Not really buying this. Wouldn’t they have pushed harder to get 9/16 from Utah then?
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Not really buying this. Wouldn’t they have pushed harder to get 9/16 from Utah then?
No one thought he was going to be part of the '23 draft class until a couple months ago. He was somewhat on the radar for '24.
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Actually, let's talk about this. If you did a re-draft of the 2010 draft, Hassan Whiteside would go in the top 7 or top 8. He acted like a child during his pre-draft process and ended up getting picked in the 2nd round. Teams really hate having to babysit or wait around on guys who aren't ready to act like a professional.
Look what just happened to Cam Whitmore last night. That wasn't just because of his medicals. That was because Cam was a zero in his interviews--no energy, no enthusiasm, no pulse. You really think Cam Whitmore wouldn't go top 5 in a re-draft a few years from now?
I still think GG is going to be fine. He hasn't played in any actual games since he was considered a lottery-range prospect at the end of the college season. When it's said and done, I still think he's likely to be ranked in the top 10 of this draft class, and possibly better than that. He came off as a kid in his interviews, and that's because he is a kid. Whoever encouraged him to jump up a draft class did him a disservice. He'd otherwise be a top-5 prospect in next year's class.
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I hope Hendricks can eventually do a bit of everything. He's ours now. Right now, he's very limited in terms of ball skills.
I don't understand Orlando's draft unless they're going to move some guys.
I'm finding myself agreeing with this. Jazz may regret not drafting Whitmore at #9, or at least #16, though the decision to pass on Whitmore took place before draft night.
I guess the Jazz just added up the risk factors and decided that they are risk-averse. To me, I'd say the Jazz are in the luxurious position where they can take some risks. But who knows, maybe Taylor Hendricks' game will flourish, or the Jazz will find another way to bring in star talent.
This is what’s driving me kinda nuts. The Jazz were kinda singularly the most flagrant in their passing on Whitmore since they did it twice (and later than the Magic).
Listened to Vecenie on Russillo today and they were both just dumbfounded and called out the Jazz specifically. I’m pretty much back to just… how the **** did we do that? P3 says Whitmore is the most like Anthony Edwards in their database and if he gets a shoulder on someone driving then it’s done.
We can sit here and say he’s comatose in an interview or maybe he has a leg with question marks or he did a bad job in workouts, but when he takes the floor he competes and is on another level as a specimen.
Keyonte and Hendricks better be ****ing awesome cuz there is very much a chance that Whitmore makes 10-15 teams look like fools.
You kind of have to draft players with this kind of game-changing potential even if it turns out to be a fiery trainwreck. The game is so dominated by dynamic wings, that even if their game has limitations in one way or another it's worth taking them. Anthony Black is another example.
I struggle with this too. He's a guy that a week or so ago I would've been thrilled to trade up for. Pains me to pass twice.
Like, I was so in the moment of the draft I moved on from the Cam thing. But now that the dust has settled I’m feeling queasy.
Like… he fell from as high as 4 to 20 because he didn’t play fake basketball well and isn’t engaged in an interview? I now have to actively hope he busts just to justify the draft last night.
I hate this feeling.
Like… he fell from as high as 4 to 20 because he didn’t play fake basketball well and isn’t engaged in an interview? I now have to actively hope he busts just to justify the draft last night.
I hate this feeling.
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24 hours ago I would’ve run through a wall with joy if they got him at 9.
Yeah, he was pretty amazing for Team USA last summer. He was considered one of the prizes of this draft. Jazz felt like they needed a guard by #16 though. They had pretty much set their minds on it. If it wasn't Keyonte, it might have been Hood-Schifino.
That’s another thing Vecenie or Russillo mentioned. They pass on Cam because of medicals and/or a bad workout… but then they draft Sensabaugh who had meniscus surgeries (the bad kind that actually don’t improve the condition, just gets rid of the debris) in high school and couldn’t even do a workout… because of likely knee issues?
What the ****
We are not even close to being close to good enough to draft for positional fit.
Shad
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I was a big Cam fan. It seems some haven't seen this yet. According to David Aldridge:
“At the Hoops Summit, Whitmore was not a practice-type player and didn’t look very good during the week. But once he played, he was one of the better players in the game. That’s going to have to change at the NBA level. He’s going to have to exert some effort, some ability and skill level in practice for a head coach to put him in a game. He’s not going to be guaranteed minutes like he probably was at Villanova.”
He hates practicing and doesn't put in any effort outside of games
“At the Hoops Summit, Whitmore was not a practice-type player and didn’t look very good during the week. But once he played, he was one of the better players in the game. That’s going to have to change at the NBA level. He’s going to have to exert some effort, some ability and skill level in practice for a head coach to put him in a game. He’s not going to be guaranteed minutes like he probably was at Villanova.”
He hates practicing and doesn't put in any effort outside of games
At the end of the day, someone has to dribble the ball. I like the Keyonte pick. TBH, I'd have been fine with it at #9. He's probably the highest-impact player we drafted last night.
The Jazz wanted to take a swing on Bilal, but he just got overexposed and rose too much the weeks before the draft.
Oh no, he doesn’t excel at fake basketball.
I get that everyone is scrambling to figure out why this happened but give me a damn break.
It should be pretty clear by now how much the Jazz value shooting. If a player can't shoot well enough, he gets shown the door pretty quickly--e.g., Bolmaro, Nickeil, Vanderbilt, and now maybe with THT.
Apparently, one of the new players coming in is taking the number '0', which was THT's number.
View: https://twitter.com/dana_greene/status/1672371557468090368
Apparently, one of the new players coming in is taking the number '0', which was THT's number.
View: https://twitter.com/dana_greene/status/1672371557468090368
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