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76ers releasing Bogut

What top tier organization doesn't try to bolster their roster in a smart fashion any chance they get?
I love this organization, I love our players (I'm an Exum optimist), I think Dennis has done a great job in a lot of ways, but I feel he can be way too conservative at times. He even admitted it last year, yet he's doing to the same thing again. I just don't see a reason why you don't do what Ellis and HH are suggesting. It just strikes me as being too timid to rock the boat, hurt our current players egos, or making a mistake. You have to be bold. ATM we have weaknesses at the backup PG and C (and PF unless Favors recovers this season) positions. It may make our current players feel better about their position but in the long run not reinforcing your roster almost always bites you in the ***.
 
infection said:
I know. Wouldn't thriller's head exploding almost be worth it on its own?
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ripping on Thriller has become a tired meme, swaths of posters here are just as political and preachy as him.
 
infection said:
Everyone (media and otherwise) keeps saying this. Why? He can't sign with anyone until he clears waivers. He can't clear waivers unless nobody claims him. Do they use this dissemination to the media to intimidate people from not making a waivers claim?
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Or Williams asked to be put on waivers with this scenario in mind. Personally, I think with all the history, the tantrums, the AK freezeout, the Sloan debacle, and the Hayward episode, there will always be a cloud over his head here. Then there's the fact that he further inhibits Exum's growth (were he to sign) when Dante's finally starting to get it. Williams can be a drama queen and a headcase - not for us with our history IMO. I'll root for him in Cleveland though. It may sound funny to some but I think Bogut would bring more value to the Jazz.
 
infection said:
You're right. Let me fix it.
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Bogut sucks a lot and I don't like him, but most importantly he doesn't really provide any sort of help to this team & I guarantee you that he wont end up in Utah this season. Even if he did, I'd be fine.

I'll save the head-exploding for the Trump voters who see America dive head-first into socialism over the next 20 years.
 
Release the Kraken said:
Or Williams asked to be put on waivers with this scenario in mind. Personally, I think with all the history, the tantrums, the AK freezeout, the Sloan debacle, and the Hayward episode, there will always be a cloud over his head here. Then there's the fact that he further inhibits Exum's growth (were he to sign) when Dante's finally starting to get it. Williams can be a drama queen and a headcase - not for us with our history IMO. I'll root for him in Cleveland though. It may sound funny to some but I think Bogut would bring more value to the Jazz.
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I think Deron would be nice but I think Bogut is a necessity. I thought this in the summer but they clearly didn't agree with my reasoning. They also offered nothing to trade for him so it appears there's still not as much urgency. We seem to think we're either healthy enough or Diaw as our big is sufficient. I'm not sure which of those false premises is worse to believe in, but as of this moment it's irrelevant because it looks like we believe both.
 
infection said:
I think Deron would be nice but I think Bogut is a necessity. I thought this in the summer but they clearly didn't agree with my reasoning. They also offered nothing to trade for him so it appears there's still not as much urgency. We seem to think we're either healthy enough or Diaw as our big is sufficient. I'm not sure which of those false premises is worse to believe in, but as of this moment it's irrelevant because it looks like we believe both.
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I've always thought that Bogut was an underrated part of that championship team. I think we could use some shoring up in the four and five positions and though Bogut is not a four at least he could help in controlling Favors minutes. I really hope we make a run at either him or Jones (released by N.O.).
 
dalamon said:
it's cuz it's a pretty bad take.
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I fully acknowledge that that's their stance. Bogut sounds bad in isolation. But compare that against assuming Diaw is your center with the health problems of Favors. An injury to Gobert and we literally do not have a single rebounder outside of a hobbled Favors and we're already getting killed on the glass. We could honestly solve this problem by having Bolomboy eat up some minutes from Diaw, Lyles and Withey but I know they're not going to do it.
 
I always worry about skilled bruisers in the post and Bogut is an answer to that. Also brings a lot of savvy, nasty, and playoff experience that the Jazz are going to need when the time comes.
 
dalamon said:
Bogut sucks a lot and I don't like him, but most importantly he doesn't really provide any sort of help to this team & I guarantee you that he wont end up in Utah this season. Even if he did, I'd be fine.

I'll save the head-exploding for the Trump voters who see America dive head-first into socialism over the next 20 years.
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Please god yes.
 
infection said:
Everyone (media and otherwise) keeps saying this. Why? He can't sign with anyone until he clears waivers. He can't clear waivers unless nobody claims him. Do they use this dissemination to the media to intimidate people from not making a waivers claim?
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Cuz Cuban did d-will a solid. Rather than simply waving him he bought him out making him a free agent.
 
♪alt13 said:
Right but unless I'm mistaken because Cuban bought him out there's no contract for a team to claim.
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Waived and bought out are mutually exclusive. He was waived. Everyone's talking as if he were bought out, though.
 
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