What is your point? Just that OB was wrong about something? Just trying to figure out what's going on here.
Coronavirus
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No one is rights... estimates are estimates. I think Gavin Newsome waaaaaayyyy overestimating the numbers is harmful in getting the compliance to some of the things he enforced... but he wasn’t any here near the ballpark. A hundred thousand one way or another is understandable. I also have no idea how accurate the numbers are... example we all got it and confirmed with positive tests. My brother in law’s family got it but only his wife took a test. I think there are a **** ton in unreported cases. I don’t know if deaths are under or over reported. Guessing they might be slightly over.
But here is the overall point imo... it’s bad. No matter what you believe about the numbers it’s real bad and we likely didn’t do a great job in managing it.
The Thriller
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Are we great yet?
Excess mortality during the Coronavirus pandemic (COVID-19) - Statistics and Research
On this page we provide an overview of excess mortality along with charts to explore the data. You can learn in more depth about different measures of excess mortality, their strengths and limitations, and their comparability across countries in our work with John Muellbauer and Janine Aron.ourworldindata.org
Excess mortality is a term used in epidemiology and public health that refers to the number of deaths from all causesduring a crisis above and beyond what we would have expected to see under ‘normal’ conditions.1 In this case, we’re interested in how deaths during the COVID-19 pandemic compare to the average number of deaths over the same period in previous years.
Excess mortality is a more comprehensive measure of the total impact of the pandemic on deaths than the confirmed COVID-19 death count alone. In addition to confirmed deaths, excess mortality captures COVID-19 deaths that were not correctly diagnosed and reported2 as well as deaths from other causes that are attributable to the overall crisis conditions.3
Excess Deaths Associated with COVID-19
Figures present excess deaths associated with COVID-19 at the national and state levels.www.cdc.gov
For folks that don't have the time to look - April-Dec of last year had an estimated 427623 excess deaths over that 9 month period, peaking 2 separate times in mid April and then again in mid December.
leftyjace
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Interesting piece in the WSJ today about the effect all of our hand washing, social distancing, and mask wearing has had on the seasonal flu.
It’s behind a paywall obviously, but for those that can get to it, here you go:
www.wsj.com
It’s behind a paywall obviously, but for those that can get to it, here you go:
Covid-19 Has Nearly Wiped Out the Flu—How Do We Keep It From Coming Back?
Coronavirus measures like mask-wearing and increased vaccination rates have contributed to historically low levels of seasonal influenza, leading some to explore what might help most after the pandemic ends.
www.wsj.com
I remember when Trumpers would be like "this is all a hoax to make trump look bad and it will suddenly go away if trump loses the election"
So japan just cancelled the olympics. Probably to make trump look bad right?
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So japan just cancelled the olympics. Probably to make trump look bad right?
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Red
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Biden inheriting nonexistent coronavirus vaccine distribution plan and must start 'from scratch,' sources say
Newly sworn in President Joe Biden and his advisers are inheriting no coronavirus vaccine distribution plan to speak of from the Trump administration, sources tell CNN, posing a significant challenge for the new White House.
www.cnn.com
The Thriller
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This seems illegal and unbelievably unethical (and totally something Trump and his sycophants would do):
Just after Utah expanded vaccine eligibility they announced they are going to expand it again.
12% of Utah's population has received both doses.
Starting Monday, anyone 50 or over or people in certain jobs (medical, long-term treatment facilities, k-12 schools, etc..) and people 16 and over with certain underlying medical conditions will be eligible.
Take a look at the list and see if you qualify. They don't actually verify your underlying condition, you just have to affirm that you have a condition on the list.
I honestly think it's time open it up vaccine eligibility all the way. Reserve priority spots for people that are elderly or have conditions, but other than that open it up.
12% of Utah's population has received both doses.
Starting Monday, anyone 50 or over or people in certain jobs (medical, long-term treatment facilities, k-12 schools, etc..) and people 16 and over with certain underlying medical conditions will be eligible.
Take a look at the list and see if you qualify. They don't actually verify your underlying condition, you just have to affirm that you have a condition on the list.
I honestly think it's time open it up vaccine eligibility all the way. Reserve priority spots for people that are elderly or have conditions, but other than that open it up.