Hayward was ******* his first two months. I seem to remember him having an actual NEGATIVE PER which is insane.and maybe Deron was onto something when he got mad at Hayward his rookie year.
Hayward was ******* his first two months. I seem to remember him having an actual NEGATIVE PER which is insane.and maybe Deron was onto something when he got mad at Hayward his rookie year.
On to something? His number should hang just for that moment.and maybe Deron was onto something when he got mad at Hayward his rookie year.
I have forgiven you Jazz fans for acting like Hayward was that great.
Deron
Korver
AK
Boozer
Okur
A good team. Could have been better. Had Sloan really let Korver be Korver, had Boozer had a brain, and had AK had a heart.
AK is kind of a lion/tin man hybrid.But who is the cowardly lion?
Tin man has to be Boozer. He was always rusty and broken.AK is kind of a lion/tin man hybrid.
I mean, Korver could technically be that.But who is the cowardly lion?
Saw on D-Wills story he is in the Zions bank practice facility today......I mean if he wanted to sign a veteran minimum and retire with the Jazz I wouldn't be mad.
NopeTime heals all wounds, and wounds all heels.
In a decade or so, if Hayward says nice things about his time with the Jazz, he will also be forgiven.
This is a good way to look at it. I think Deron has done some reflecting and realizes he could have been better. I think he’s actually taken a step back and been humbled a bit since and realizes what he had here and that it was a special part of his life. He has also been fully willing k admit his best days and times were here during his career. He means more to us than he did to Nets fans, Dallas fans, or Cavs fans for sure, and his career here with us means more to him than his days in a Nets, Mavs, or Cavs uniform. Strange to say, but Deron Williams has more humility than Hayward. Hayward acts like his career never happened here. Deron always spoke highly of being here and never once ignored the fact he had some great days here.Some interesting revisionism happening in this thread--
- Sloan's Booz/Okur/DWill teams were routinely among the best offensive teams in the NBA no matter which metric you look at. This whole "he refused to adapt to the game" is farcical-- in fact, when coaches were polled before that fateful year, The Jazz offence was voted as the best offence in the NBA. The achilles of those teams was always defence, and Okur/booz 4/5 combo were buzzsawed by the likes of Gasol and Bynum
- Hayward at the 9 will forever be an extremely dope pick, and if things didn't nuke he could've been a perfect SF compliment to DWill and the others.
- Hayward going out in the fashion that he did is purely unforgivable, and in a sense I'm happy for it. He'll be public enemy number one for the rest of his career, and it'll make every game he ever plays in SLC that much more exciting for the rest of us.
- DWill was a bitch that month, and he deserves the reception he initially got. But, notice how his following actions are getting people to chill out on him a bit-- that's important. He'll attend a game one day, he'll get cheers, and he'll deserve them. Hayward is way too big of a knob to every have the humility to do the same, and thus I frankly hope he never returns to Utah post-career.
And yes, of course, Hayward's accomplishments here pale in comparison to what DWill was able to do.
This is a good way to look at it. I think Deron has done some reflecting and realizes he could have been better. I think he’s actually taken a step back and been humbled a bit since and realizes what he had here and that it was a special part of his life. He has also been fully willing k admit his best days and times were here during his career. He means more to us than he did to Nets fans, Dallas fans, or Cavs fans for sure, and his career here with us means more to him than his days in a Nets, Mavs, or Cavs uniform. Strange to say, but Deron Williams has more humility than Hayward. Hayward acts like his career never happened here. Deron always spoke highly of being here and never once ignored the fact he had some great days here.
D-Will can be forgiven, Hayward won’t because we all know who Hayward actually is. Deron was brash, but you always knew where he stood. A bit childish? Sure, but he wasn’t a lying snake. A bit arrogant? Yes, but honest. Hayward was a slimy creature who lied up until he got his little letter out. I’ll take a guy being a truthful jerk over a lying two faced snake any day.
Time heals all wounds, and wounds all heels.
In a decade or so, if Hayward says nice things about his time with the Jazz, he will also be forgiven.
I agree, he will be forgotten, especially with DM around. Why waste energy on him really, unless totally bored right before the draft.It doesn't. Pretty much any deep wound is a life threatening situation without modern technology.
Also, people still talk about Fisher. An irrelevant scrub! Hayward will never be forgiven. But in time, he will be forgotten.
Also, people still talk about Fisher. An irrelevant scrub! Hayward will never be forgiven. But in time, he will be forgotten.