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Donald Fires FBI Director who's investigating Russian Election Hacking

Zombie said:
Manafort was his campaign manager...

He handpicked the VP, but really he was a nobody lol. Good one.
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I doubt Manafort "handpicked" Pence. Pence was a political winner because he could hold on to Trump's religious support practically no matter how many hos Trump has ever consorted with for a good price. Pence is a political moderate with a lot of appeal to the RINO republicans as well. If you could like Bush, you would love Pence. I mean that in the sense that he is personally decent. I know a lot of folks thought of Dub that same way.

If anything. Manafort was a strategist with some political sense, and I think Trump prefers sensible people whatever their character over ideological live wires like Bannon who just believe so passionately they can hardly take a minute off to go pee.
 
JazzGal said:
In 2014, Trump tweeted "We need a President who isn't a laughing stock to the entire World. We need a truly great leader, a genius at strategy and winning. Respect!"

Yes we do, Trump, yes we do.
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So, if he didn't know already, Trump can now know that the world thinks he's a fool. And maybe the funniest part is he actually went with the "I meant to do that" excuse. Lol! Too funny.

The reaction of the German delegation, seen in the second clip here, is also priceless.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...0b1d52-c0eb-11e8-90c9-23f963eea204_story.html

He has always been obsessed that people are laughing at the president. From the mid-’80s, he’s said: ‘The world is laughing at us. They think we’re fools,’ ” said Thomas Wright, a Europe analyst at the Brookings Institution. “It’s never been true, but he’s said it about every president. It’s the first time I’m aware of that people actually laughed at a president. I think it is going to drive him absolutely crazy. It will play to every insecurity he has.”

“On one hand, you feel, ‘Oh, God, how awful that the American president is being laughed at on the world stage,’ ” said Julie Smith, who served as deputy national security adviser to Vice President Joe Biden.

“But on the other hand, you kind of feel good that Trump was finally escaping the bubble of political rallies that continually gives him the impression that everyone agrees with the false claims he is making,” said Smith, who watched Trump’s speech from Berlin, where she is spending a year as a fellow at the Bosch Academy. “There was a moment I thought to myself, ‘This is good that the president is being exposed to how the rest of the world sees him.’ ”
 
babe said:
I read the terms of the cooperation agreement.

It is crap because Manafort was a nobody in Trumps camp, really. Not there long enough to make a difference. He has nothing "true" on Trump or his team. Russia cooperation with Trump didn't happen.

:Hillary did get help from the Ruskies.
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OK, so what do you imagine Mueller got in return for the deal Manafort got? Since Mueller had Manafort by the chuggies in any case, he must have heard something he found valuable to the investigation. Plus they worded the deal to ward off a Trump pardon. Why would Mueller do that? You may be right that it won't relate to Trump, but I would not count on it either. Mueller must have his sights on someone higher in the food chain, or stronger evidence of conspiracy to collude, or perhaps Russian $$. What is Manafort promising, since he will have had to have had a sit down to describe the basics of what he could offer? What would that be?
 
fishonjazz said:
Holy crap he is embarrassing. What a moron.
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See? This is why Trump won. Elitists always make fun of his intelligence.

Besides, you libs didn’t call out Kennedy when he was embarrassed by Khrushchev at the Vienna Summit. You liberals defended him, as if Kennedy was a half-decent president. So you can’t criticize Trump now. That’s hypocritical.

I’m not a trump supporter but Both sides are equally to blame here...
 
The Thriller said:
See? This is why Trump won. Elitists always make fun of his intelligence.

Besides, you libs didn’t call out Kennedy when he was embarrassed by Khrushchev at the Vienna Summit. You liberals defended him, as if Kennedy was a half-decent president. So you can’t criticize Trump now. That’s hypocritical.

I’m not a trump supporter but Both sides are equally to blame here...
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The Vienna summit was in '61. Fishiepoo, do you recall the Vienna Summit, and how you felt about it?
 
Harambe said:
The Vienna summit was in '61. Fishiepoo, do you recall the Vienna Summit, and how you felt about it?
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I wasn’t born yet. But according to some posters here, in order to justify Trump’s and Kavanaugh’s sexual assaults, democrats needed to be up in arms against Democrats too even if it was decades and decades ago and completely irrelevant to today’s discussion, or else be labeled hypocrites.

Because, apparently we shouldn’t investigate K because clinton. Even though we see recent examples of celebrities/politicians being crushed because we’ve seen a change in how we view sexual assault. Cosby, Weinstein, kevin Spacey...

I find it interesting that republicans bring up clinton (who hasn’t been in public office for decades) but ignore Al Franken.

I just wonder how far republicans are willing to take whataboutism?

If Al Franken had a R by his name hed still be in the senate. Either that or serving on the SC or Trump’s cabinet.
 
The Thriller said:
I wasn’t born yet. But according to some posters here, in order to justify Trump’s and Kavanaugh’s sexual assaults, democrats needed to be up in arms against Democrats too even if it was decades and decades ago and completely irrelevant to today’s discussion, or else be labeled hypocrites.

Because, apparently we shouldn’t investigate K because clinton. Even though we see recent examples of celebrities/politicians being crushed because we’ve seen a change in how we view sexual assault. Cosby, Weinstein, kevin Spacey...

I find it interesting that republicans bring up clinton (who hasn’t been in public office for decades) but ignore Al Franken.

I just wonder how far republicans are willing to take whataboutism?

If Al Franken had a R by his name hed still be in the senate. Either that or serving on the SC or Trump’s cabinet.
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You don't get to say things like "you libs didn't call out..." when the person you're talking about wasn't even alive yet to dump them into that category. It's inherently unfair. You might as well be saying "Hey millenials, you bloody yanks didn't even try to work with us on taxation before you got the French involved". We do not, and should not have a familial caste system that we pour each other into. Don't just preach... Be better than that.

If Repubicans want to bring up Clinton, that's fine. Let them. By letting them have any leverage from that argument merely reinforces the "it's your turn" schema that failed the Democrats against donnie. Stop validating whataboutisms, and broadcast what's happening now. Start leading how we should be doing things, instead of how we have.

Al Franken was a filthy mouthed sunuvabitch. And I have no doubt he did some questionable **** during his years. But he owned up to it, voluntarily asked for an ethics probe, and stepped down before he was forced down. He kept his mind open to the possibility of something going differently than he remembered. I'm not sure whose fault it is that he isn't more central a topic, but this should be what we want to see.

We deserve more from our politicians. More "I certainly don't remember the rehearsal for the skit in the same way, but I send my sincerest apologies to Leeann" and less "This is ridiculous and from the Twilight Zone. I don't know who this is and this never happened"
 
Harambe said:
You don't get to say things like "you libs didn't call out..." when the person you're talking about wasn't even alive yet to dump them into that category. It's inherently unfair. You might as well be saying "Hey millenials, you bloody yanks didn't even try to work with us on taxation before you got the French involved". We do not, and should not have a familial caste system that we pour each other into. Don't just preach... Be better than that.

If Repubicans want to bring up Clinton, that's fine. Let them. By letting them have any leverage from that argument merely reinforces the "it's your turn" schema that failed the Democrats against donnie. Stop validating whataboutisms, and broadcast what's happening now. Start leading how we should be doing things, instead of how we have.

Al Franken was a filthy mouthed sunuvabitch. And I have no doubt he did some questionable **** during his years. But he owned up to it, voluntarily asked for an ethics probe, and stepped down before he was forced down. He kept his mind open to the possibility of something going differently than he remembered. I'm not sure whose fault it is that he isn't more central a topic, but this should be what we want to see.

We deserve more from our politicians. More "I certainly don't remember the rehearsal for the skit in the same way, but I send my sincerest apologies to Leeann" and less "This is ridiculous and from the Twilight Zone. I don't know who this is and this never happened"
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I don’t think you’re understanding my posts correctly
 
Red said:
OK, so what do you imagine Mueller got in return for the deal Manafort got? Since Mueller had Manafort by the chuggies in any case, he must have heard something he found valuable to the investigation. Plus they worded the deal to ward off a Trump pardon. Why would Mueller do that? You may be right that it won't relate to Trump, but I would not count on it either. Mueller must have his sights on someone higher in the food chain, or stronger evidence of conspiracy to collude, or perhaps Russian $$. What is Manafort promising, since he will have had to have had a sit down to describe the basics of what he could offer? What would that be?
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In a historic unprecedented witch hunt, Mueller had a license to investigate everything in the universe, he thought. He can't just say "Duh.... I got nuthin'". Besides he has a record to live up to.... But damn certain some D "community organizer" or another has told him to sit down and shut up until the midterm election is over. If the Ds win, he'll be back... still with nuthin….. but eager to trump up some impeachment charges for Pelosi. If he keeps chirping, he'll cost the Ds a lot of votes..... maybe stir up a red outrage.

Manafort agreed to cooperate by telling the truth.... something he was legally obligated to in testifying to anything under any witness oath. Mueller did not specify any new area of interest for his investigation, and there is nothing in anything Manafort has said, yet, that concedes any fact beyond his own fairly undeniable or already-proven law violations in taxes and finance, and his sentence is probably a little overboard. Trump might not want to get involved in "pardoning" tax cheats, really.

nah, all Mueller got was a way to close up shop smiling, and get his plane ticket for Peru.... or whatever country that doesn't smile on extradition requests from the US. Just in case the R's hang on or gain steam enough to not only shut down his little D/Press/DeepState kissing booth, but implicate him with Orr.
 
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Harambe said:
The Vienna summit was in '61. Fishiepoo, do you recall the Vienna Summit, and how you felt about it?
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I wasn't there, but it was in the news. K pounding on the table with his shoe saying "Wel'll bury you!!!" and something to the effect that communism would take American from the inside.

Not much laughter, folks.

Trump, with his MAGA campaign and general braggadocio manner, in a cult of UN true believers, saying anything.... would imo get the goons mocking. Maybe more now than before just because the goons are encouraged with the hope for a blue wave taking the wind outta Trumps sails.

Mark Levin says if the Ds take back the House, there'll be two more years of "Addicted to Outrage" like the past two, only then there'll be a megaphone in the D's hands and committees investigating everything imaginable, except Hillary's server and Obama's community organizing genius. And, oh..... yah..... more million dollar speaking gigs for Bill and Hillary in Russian universities.
 
Well, I expect Kavanaugh will be seated in the Supreme Court next week, but I don't think that will wake up the screamin' ninnies to the fact that Americans are increasingly rejecting the whole "Addicted to Outrage" movement. It would take some very savvy "community organizer" to get the crazies to just shut up for five weeks and quietly roll out the vote machines.
 
babe said:
In a historic unprecedented witch hunt, Mueller had a license to investigate everything in the universe, he thought. He can't just say "Duh.... I got nuthin'". Besides he has a record to live up to.... But damn certain some D "community organizer" or another has told him to sit down and shut up until the midterm election is over. If the Ds win, he'll be back... still with nuthin….. but eager to trump up some impeachment charges for Pelosi. If he keeps chirping, he'll cost the Ds a lot of votes..... maybe stir up a red outrage.

Manafort agreed to cooperate by telling the truth.... something he was legally obligated to in testifying to anything under any witness oath. Mueller did not specify any new area of interest for his investigation, and there is nothing in anything Manafort has said, yet, that concedes any fact beyond his own fairly undeniable or already-proven law violations in taxes and finance, and his sentence is probably a little overboard. Trump might not want to get involved in "pardoning" tax cheats, really.

nah, all Mueller got was a way to close up shop smiling, and get his plane ticket for Peru.... or whatever country that doesn't smile on extradition requests from the US. Just in case the R's hang on or gain steam enough to not only shut down his little D/Press/DeepState kissing booth, but implicate him with Orr.
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But @babe, you did not answer a single one of the questions I asked. What did Manafort offer in his required sit down with Mueller's team that caused Mueller to offer generous terms to a man he had by the balls, and therefore Mueller could not possibly lose in a second trial? A prosecutor does not offer such deals out of the goodness of his heart or because he is thinking "poor Manafort, he has suffered enough". At any rate, I posed a series of reasonable questions based on what we know regarding the plea deal. You answered not a single one.
 
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babe said:
Well, I expect Kavanaugh will be seated in the Supreme Court next week, but I don't think that will wake up the screamin' ninnies to the fact that Americans are increasingly rejecting the whole "Addicted to Outrage" movement. It would take some very savvy "community organizer" to get the crazies to just shut up for five weeks and quietly roll out the vote machines.
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Are you actually lumping rape victims in with social justice warriors?

Dude, you're slippin...
 
candrew said:
Are you actually lumping rape victims in with social justice warriors?

Dude, you're slippin...
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Are you talking to babe? If so, that dude lost his mind long ago.
 
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