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Saint Cy of JFC said:
I mean, what do yall expect from injury updates? I'm sure reporters ask questions, but the Jazz have no reason to inform them on every detail of a player's rehab progression and process.
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I'd really like a tongue in cheek update that Exum is out with a shoulder injury with no timetable for return everyday.
 
Pretty NBA teams have decided to be as vague as possible in regards to injury as way to protect themselves and the players. Any solid timeline leads to expectations and if those arent met, the player is soft or the team ****ed up in some way in the public's eyes.
 
Jack Strop said:
Have you lived outside of Utah? Non-Utah media often asks tough questions instead of tossing softballs. They tell it like it is in larger markets. Not afraid to criticize an organization or take it to task. Are they always right? No. But the Utah media is largely employed or at least heavily controlled by the team. You aren't going to get much objectivity or criticism. They are, for the most part, "yes men."
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No. I've only ever lived in Utah. In fact, I've never even set foot beyond the block of 3300 S and 1000 E in SLC. Literally. And I'm also not capable of reading sports coverage for any other team in the NBA despite its wide availability on the internet. Isn't that weird?
 
Flc said:
Local Jazz beat reporter (and probably the best of our beat reporters) comes to Jazz Fanz to specifically answer questions of a forum member, effectively giving us a mainline conduit to the team, players, and coaching staff and your first instinct is to trash talk him?

Regardless of whether or not you're joking, you're a moron.
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It's great he visits this forum, as did Jody G. But Andy himself admitted he' not tied into the agents and sources that nat'l media are.So really not much of a "conduit" to the team. More of a spigot to dispense info and viewpoints that the organization wants to flow from the FO to the fans. And I offered by two cents on why I think that relationship exists and why the Jazz org gets away with it.
Look, it's no different than politics. The right and left wings present decidedy biased news because to do otherwise would jeopardize their jobs. It is only where independence and competition are allowed where one can expect unbiased and in-depth reporting. I'm sure Larsen, Genessey, Locke and tbe rest are good blokes. I just haven't and don't expect much in terms of rocking the boat.
And that's different than what happens in markets such as LA, No CA, N.Y., Boston, etc.
 
Additionally, there is an actual law that says you don't have to tall anyone about your medical condition if you don't want to. If someone finds out and reports it anyway, that is illegal.
 
framer said:
Additionally, there is an actual law that says you don't have to tall anyone about your medical condition if you don't want to. If someone finds out and reports it anyway, that is illegal.
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Pfft laws are for poor people...
 
framer said:
Additionally, there is an actual law that says you don't have to tall anyone about your medical condition if you don't want to. If someone finds out and reports it anyway, that is illegal.
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That's really not applicable to what we're asking. If it were, sports teams wouldn't have to give injury reports by certain deadlines, for example in tne NFL if players are out, probable, questionable, etc. Sure, we can't ask to see a players MRI or ask the details of his rehab, medications, etc, but there' nothing against teams disclosing other info. Case in point was IT. Cavs provided lots of updates from the time of the trade until his return.
 
Jack Strop said:
It's great he visits this forum, as did Jody G. But Andy himself admitted he' not tied into the agents and sources that nat'l media are.So really not much of a "conduit" to the team. More of a spigot to dispense info and viewpoints that the organization wants to flow from the FO to the fans. And I offered by two cents on why I think that relationship exists and why the Jazz org gets away with it.
Look, it's no different than politics. The right and left wings present decidedy biased news because to do otherwise would jeopardize their jobs. It is only where independence and competition are allowed where one can expect unbiased and in-depth reporting. I'm sure Larsen, Genessey, Locke and tbe rest are good blokes. I just haven't and don't expect much in terms of rocking the boat.
And that's different than what happens in markets such as LA, No CA, N.Y., Boston, etc.
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This reminds me of Superbad and how the skinny kid didn’t want Jonah Hill he got into Dartmouth and was rooming with McLovin’.
 
framer said:
Additionally, there is an actual law that says you don't have to tall anyone about your medical condition if you don't want to. If someone finds out and reports it anyway, that is illegal.
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HIPPA does not apply to reporters or even the average person. It applies to doctors, nurses, etc. If your doctor tells me about your medical condition and then I share that with the world then your doctor has broken the law but I haven't(******* move but not illegal).
 
Jack Strop said:
It's great he visits this forum, as did Jody G. But Andy himself admitted he' not tied into the agents and sources that nat'l media are.So really not much of a "conduit" to the team. More of a spigot to dispense info and viewpoints that the organization wants to flow from the FO to the fans.
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The franchise has zero oversight of Andy's reporting. It'd be nice if agents took local media more seriously. But local guys often play a different role and do a different kind of reporting than national guys. The division of labor can be a benefit. Andy, not to mention others like Tony Jones, are a more reliable source on the state of the team, what's working and what isn't, tracking trends, etc. National coverage of the Jazz is usually much more shallow, aside from occasional feature reports.

Larsen works for KSL. Tony Jones for the Tribune. Neither of these entities are owned or overseen by the franchise in any way. You've never worked as a journalist, I presume? I have. You don't know what you're talking about.
 
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