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Favors secretly on the trade block?

If someone offered something good for Favors then great go for it. Chance of that are pretty slim though. He is clearly injured. Our best hope he is he gets healthy by the post season. Favors and Gobert can play together and have played together well but only when they are healthy. If we trade Favors for another PF we have to get another Center as well since Favors is our backup center as well right now. My best guess is Favors wont get healthy this season and will play through whatever he has and next off season will heal up or have a surgery and heal up and get back to full strength next year. At that point we can evaluate if he should be traded and what we can get for him. But I guess another team might be willing to bet on Favors getting healthy and in a different role and offer us something good for him, but I doubt it. There is no reason to trade him for pennies on the dollar. We need to get a close to all-star level (What Favors is when healthy) or better PF for him or its a bad deal.
 
I've been telling you all that Favors has either been on the wrong side of health or the wrong side of preparation for 2 years now. I've also said he has a maximum of 15 good games left this year, including playoffs. And that estimate may be high. This is what we're dealing with. If he's retained and begins to play well, the question marks hanging over his head will not be eased until 20+ games into next season, the last one on his current deal. If we're thinking in terms of asset-management, this situation has been getting out-of-hand, slowly but surely.

That Pels pick would be dope as ****. I wonder if they're desperate enough.
 
I wouldn't trade Favors for this, but I'd look at Patrick Patterson. With Ibaka going to the Raptors that should make Patterson expendable. They gave up a pick to Orlando, so they might want some kind of 2nd round action for Patterson. Patterson is in the last year of his deal and will be a UFA next year, I doubt Raptors really have the cap-space to re-sign. I'm not really sure how much they value him though. Do they want to keep everyone to make a huge run or do they feel Patterson is expendable. Not sure.
 
LoPo said:
He has to be dealt. Some of us have been saying this for over a year. He doesnt fit well next to Gobert (for big games and playoffs which matter most). Financially, he doesn't make sense for us at a near max number should we extend.

I know its crazy, but I would target Melo or Millsaps. F it, lets go all in. A player like that next to Gobert would make us contenders. We need that offense for the playoffs.

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Contenders for what? A second round showing? Sorry, but these last three games, just as I feared (as I worried about these three in another post pre-Dallas tipoff) has shown me that we are not nearly as good as I, or maybe even many of us, thought we were.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I wouldn't trade Favors for this, but I'd look at Patrick Patterson. With Ibaka going to the Raptors that should make Patterson expendable. They gave up a pick to Orlando, so they might want some kind of 2nd round action for Patterson. Patterson is in the last year of his deal and will be a UFA next year, I doubt Raptors really have the cap-space to re-sign. I'm not really sure how much they value him though. Do they want to keep everyone to make a huge run or do they feel Patterson is expendable. Not sure.
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Would cost a 1st. By all accounts they love him... leadership, play, and his buy-in. I think the Ibaka shows an all in on this year motivation. Will decide to keep either Ibaka or Patterson. He's also not been healthy... he'd be a nice fit though.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I wouldn't trade Favors for this, but I'd look at Patrick Patterson. With Ibaka going to the Raptors that should make Patterson expendable. They gave up a pick to Orlando, so they might want some kind of 2nd round action for Patterson. Patterson is in the last year of his deal and will be a UFA next year, I doubt Raptors really have the cap-space to re-sign. I'm not really sure how much they value him though. Do they want to keep everyone to make a huge run or do they feel Patterson is expendable. Not sure.
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I floated Kanter for Patterson last year at this time and got laughed at.

We were holding out for Grant Jarrett apparently.
 
I like the Patterson idea but Toronto may want him as a legit bench player still. Worth a try though. I'd also take a serious look at James Johnson who's on the last year of his contract at 4M per in Miami. Dude is 6'8", athletic, long (7'0.75" wingspan/8' 9.5" standing reach...Hayward is 6'7.75" and 8'7" as a comparison...Joe Johnson is 6'9" and 8'9") tough, can play some 3 or 4, and is hitting the 3 at 35.7% which isn't bad. Not sure what we could work but he's def worth a look.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
I like the Patterson idea but Toronto may want him as a legit bench player still. Worth a try though. I'd also take a serious look at James Johnson who's on the last year of his contract at 4M per in Miami. Dude is 6'8", athletic, long (7'0.75" wingspan/8' 9.5" standing reach...Hayward is 6'7.75" and 8'7" as a comparison...Joe Johnson is 6'9" and 8'9") tough, can play some 3 or 4, and is hitting the 3 at 35.7% which isn't bad. Not sure what we could work but he's def worth a look.
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Heat definitely arent trading Johnson. They have cap-space and will probably look to re-sign him.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
I like the Patterson idea but Toronto may want him as a legit bench player still. Worth a try though. I'd also take a serious look at James Johnson who's on the last year of his contract at 4M per in Miami. Dude is 6'8", athletic, long (7'0.75" wingspan/8' 9.5" standing reach...Hayward is 6'7.75" and 8'7" as a comparison...Joe Johnson is 6'9" and 8'9") tough, can play some 3 or 4, and is hitting the 3 at 35.7% which isn't bad. Not sure what we could work but he's def worth a look.
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But you are probably right that they wont look to trade Patterson. I would guess they would think about unloading Carroll for an expiring deal. They will have a huge LT bill if they are able to sign both Ibaka and Lowry. But I'm guessing we dont want to pay Carroll 15 million next year.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Heat definitely arent trading Johnson. They have cap-space and will probably look to re-sign him.
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Would anyone do Favors for JJ and a heavily protected 1st? I don't think Miami would but I am to the point I would do it for JJ and two 2nds I think.

I don't think we'll ever see a healthy version again so it's pointless to hold on and not get something. I think James Johnson this year, and if we were to then re-sign him, gives us a better chance at winning. He turns the ball over too much and isn't nearly as good a rebounder but he fits our offensive scheme much better and is a really good passer. He's also healthy and would be cheaper on the reup than Faves imo. Maybe by a lot even.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
Would anyone do Favors for JJ and a heavily protected 1st? I don't think Miami would but I am to the point I would do it for JJ and two 2nds I think.

I don't think we'll ever see a healthy version again so it's pointless to hold on and not get something. I think James Johnson this year, and if we were to then re-sign him, gives us a better chance at winning. He turns the ball over too much and isn't nearly as good a rebounder but he fits our offensive scheme much better and is a really good passer. He's also healthy and would be cheaper on the reup than Faves imo. Maybe by a lot even.
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Why does Miami want to pair Whiteside/Favors?
 
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