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Flat Earth movement - explain please...

Do you believe the Earth is flat?


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OK, so I really voted, and you all can see I voted that I believed the earth is flat.

Flatness is defined as zero curvature, it does not imply there is any edge or end of flatness where things can be thrown over the cliff. The existence of a cliff would belie the claim of "flatness".

So the earth has a radius of about 4000 miles. Given that I can only walk about fifty miles uphill in an hour, I choose to walk on flat surfaces where I can cover two hundred and fifty miles an hour on "flat ground". Just kidding, of course. It'd be my scooter that did that, on board a pretty good airplane.

But anyone can see, if they will take a bath and climb the basement stairs and go out on the sidewalk, that "flat" is so descriptive of the earth it makes mountains something special. I highly recommend the exercise to MVP, just so he can appreciate an actually original perspective on things that he doesn't get off a Leftist hack political agenda webz.

The universe has a flatter surface somewhere out there however many gillions of jazillions of light years the Universe Radius may be. A point has zero radius, and infinite curvature.

flat may be considered a equi-gravity plane, or an equi-EMF plane as well. A surface where the forces acting on an object produce no acceleration.

ergo, since I do nothing and don't go anywhere, the earth has got to be flat.

Q. E. D.
 
OK, so I really voted, and you all can see I voted that I believed the earth is flat.

Flatness is defined as zero curvature, it does not imply there is any edge or end of flatness where things can be thrown over the cliff. The existence of a cliff would belie the claim of "flatness".

The earth, and all things of a basically ovoid shape, has positive curvature.
 
. I highly recommend the exercise to MVP, just so he can appreciate an actually original perspective on things that he doesn't get off a Leftist hack political agenda webz.
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Spoken like a true expert. Not sure how you lumped me with leftists when I am the furthest from the leftist you can ever be.
 
Spoken like a true expert. Not sure how you lumped me with leftists when I am the furthest from the leftist you can ever be.

Well, you haven't ranted about multiculturalism in a while, so he forgot. :D
 
Well, you haven't ranted about multiculturalism in a while, so he forgot. :D
Theoretical multiculturalism sounds great. In practice though, you end up with Soviet Union and "some animals are more equal then the others" situation. I think humanity is too early in it's evolution for multiculturalism. It's 21 st century and we still have flat earthers, creationists and other quacks.
 
Theoretical multiculturalism sounds great. In practice though, you end up with Soviet Union and "some animals are more equal then the others" situation. I think humanity is too early in it's evolution for multiculturalism. It's 21 st century and we still have flat earthers, creationists and other quacks.

I don't agree even one bit. Multiculturalism has been the human default condition since, at least, the agricultural revolution. Current cultural divide is not inherent. Culture is always in flux.
 
I don't agree even one bit. Multiculturalism has been the human default condition since, at least, the agricultural revolution. Current cultural divide is not inherent. Culture is always in flux.
Ok, so what you are saying humanity is at the peak of its parabola when it comes to multiculturalism. It was default, then it got divided and there is hope it will go back to default state? There is whole new can of worms you are about to open if we will start discussing conditions needed for it to happen...
 
The earth, and all things of a basically ovoid shape, has positive curvature.

I was assuming all things universally will have a positive curvature because nature is inherently set up to achieve a stable (lowest possible) energy field, and whatever object you can imagine will naturally be as compact as possible. As, for example a piece of paper, after I had scribbled all over it writing some kind of imaginative trash, always turned out to be a compact wad in the trash can.

I thought zero curvature, the absolute mathematical limit of "flat" is an imaginary thing that can never really exist because as big as it is, the Universe cannot be "infinite".

But I digress, of course.

You are mathematically correct.

I am only willing to believe in an approximate "flat earth" that conforms to the actual radius and looks flat to the uncritical eye. Just as I am only willing to believe in an approximate "conservative politics" that conforms to needed change and only looks conservative to the average redneck.
 
I was assuming all things universally will have a positive curvature because nature is inherently set up to achieve a stable (lowest possible) energy field, and whatever object you can imagine will naturally be as compact as possible. As, for example a piece of paper, after I had scribbled all over it writing some kind of imaginative trash, always turned out to be a compact wad in the trash can.

Toroids, such as doughnuts or cup handles, have negative curvature on the inner surface. Cylinders have zero curvature. Both can show up in nature.
 
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