Did German followers of Hitler in 1935, two years into his rule, foresee the future? We are not even two years into Trump. The parallels are there.
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Did German followers of Hitler in 1935, two years into his rule, foresee the future? We are not even two years into Trump. The parallels are there.
Yea, it is. I think both sides are being idiots or worse, and yes Mr Orange definitely has created some separation, but I refuse to side with the lesser idiot because it's better than the blatant one in power now. I don't agree with either side at all, but because I don't side with you... "you helped rape and pillage, you took the children, you hate the people I profess to love!!! burn!!!"
A bit out there.
If that's the selling point to joining a group, it needs work. "We're not as bad as that bigot, rapist, murderer... so join us".
I'm not going to avoid Shere Khan, just to run into the arms of Kaa. (Kaa from the movie, not the books)
Archie Moses
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We're all going to die. Hysteria!
No hysteria, I just recognize crazy when I see it.
mellow
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The ruling class laughs at us. The dems "win" the presidency and the right freaks out that Stalin is back again. The Reps "win" the presidency and the left sees Hitler everywhere. They have us at each other's throats ready to do to each other what we would never allow them to do to us. Meanwhile they get richer, and more powerful.
Insult for insult leads to *** for tat leads to an eye for an eye leads to one of yours for one of ours and then we are in a living hell. It takes courage to back away from a fight and seek reconciliation, only madness will continue the drive towards war.
Insult for insult leads to *** for tat leads to an eye for an eye leads to one of yours for one of ours and then we are in a living hell. It takes courage to back away from a fight and seek reconciliation, only madness will continue the drive towards war.
Zombie
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Difference being of course that Obama was a bog standard politician, flawed to be sure but respectful and understanding of democratic norms, and Trump has literally enacted a policy of taking kids from their parents and putting them in cages. To say nothing of his election shenanigans, apparent disregard for our western alliances, and profiting from the presidency.
This both siderism is the worst kind of moral posturing. You get to pretend to be 'above it all' while completely dismissing the unique and terrible circumstance we find ourselves in.
Archie Moses
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Just curious how you guys would detain families that cross the border. Would you put them in a Holiday Express or is that too cheap?
If that were true the "left wing, far right, bipartisan, GOP, liberal, etc... " rhetoric would die down. I wish it weren't about sides right now.Makes sense....
It's not about sides.
Zombie
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I'm sure there's a middle ground between getting tossed into federal jail, and thus separated from your children, and getting put up in a Holiday Inn.
Up until recently we simply held families together pending their hearings before an immigration judge (that's the due process bit that Trump would like to get rid of). Of course this still inhumane in my opinion, children are still being locked up and traumatized even with their families. A better solution is simply to release families together pending their hearing and set them up with a case manager to help them with legal representation and referrals for work, housing etc. This is actually a far less expensive endeavor than detention and the vast majority of migrants who have legal representation show up to their hearings, fears of 'catch and release' notwithstanding.
It is true tho that Trump, and a lot of his supporters, are quite racist. Just today he complained about European countries being taken over by Muslims, and how they're just not the same any more.
Seriously, **** that guy.
Douchebag K
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From a distance Trump seems like a complete ****** but these sorts of summations comparing to the evolution of Hitler and living under great tyranny etc seem like absolute hysteria.
Technically you should call him sub-racist if you are going to call him anything. Aryan, Semitic, and Hamitic are sub-races to the Caucasoid race. Trump as an Aryan sub-race member, hating all Semitic sub-race members is hating on people of his own race, but not of his sub-race.
https://biologywise.com/list-of-human-races
FYI
Zombie
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The thing is, if you wait until you've got an actual dictator in place before you get 'hysterical' it's too late. The warning signs are here and we should be sounding the alarm.
I'm not sure if you're being serious. Race is not a real concrete thing that has a single definition. The most important definition of race is simply people's perception of who belongs where. People associate race with certain "looks" that they've been taught to associate with said race as children. So Americans do not consider Middle Easterners white, regardless of what some genetic or historical definitions have to say. Thus they are not seen nor treated as whites. But ya, on the census, they check white because it tells them to do so.
Fine, go ahead and decide when science fits and should be trusted, and when you can throw it away.
Douchebag K
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but really dude .. what signs of dictatorship ... there still seems to be absolute freedom to protest, express your opinion in whatever form you like, etc You have mid term elections soon yes ? And then another general election in 2 years where you can vote this clown out ya ??
I'm gonna assume you're just trolling.
I would reform our immigration system so that they could enter legally.
Well... I wouldn't detain them. All for open borders.