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Trump and North Korea

What’ll they do with those Donald and “Supreme Leader” commemorative coins?

Sounds like John Bolton’s comments about making “North Korea into Libya” went over like a lead balloon. I can’t imagine a worse thing to tell the Korean regime than that.

What’ll trump tweet about tomorrow morning to make up for this disaster? Hillary? The NFL? Or CNN?
 
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This summarizes trump’s presidency perfectly.

Trump runs his ***.
The right creams itself thinking that Donald might actually accomplish something.
Experts, the decent, and the left raise questions. Smart people understand that complicated problems are rarely solved by simple solutions. The right accuses doubters of being unpatriotic.
Trump fails. But the right claims it’s really a win

It’s pretty ****ing hilarious to see how pathetically ineffective this ******* is as president. And then watch his dimwitted fan club claim that they actually won by losing. He’s literally accomplished zero. His lone legislative achievement is the tax cut that republicans can’t run fast enough away from.

Truly, the only lasting effects of trump and his presidency are the damages he and Hannity have wrecked on the public’s trust of institutions and his poor judicial appointments.

I guess I shouldn’t say he hasn’t accomplished anything. He’s gonna get a lot of democrats elected in six months. That makes me happy. One party clearly has no business being in a position of power.
 
3 second summary of how this all went down.

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One of my coworkers was just in my office praising Trump for being such an awesome president and one of the smartest men in the world. He is a follower of Trump's Twitter account and loves how "he tells it like it is." Pointing out the ways that none of this is true has done nothing in the past to dampen his enthusiasm for MAGA, so I didn't even try anymore.
 
One of my coworkers was just in my office praising Trump for being such an awesome president and one of the smartest men in the world. He is a follower of Trump's Twitter account and loves how "he tells it like it is." Pointing out the ways that none of this is true has done nothing in the past to dampen his enthusiasm for MAGA, so I didn't even try anymore.

I literally just finished listening to a 10 minute lecture by a co-worker about how Trump is the best president ever.
 
I think there could be a reasonable (and by "reasonable" I don't mean "right") argument for the positives of Trump's presidency, but the view of his supporters that he's some kind of truth-teller is bizarre as ****. He can't talk without lying or embellishing or using massive bravado. He's the most phoney public figure I can think of.
 
I literally just finished listening to a 10 minute lecture by a co-worker about how Trump is the best president ever.

It's that kind of day, apparently. Hope our weekends are better.
 
I think there could be a reasonable (and by "reasonable" I don't mean "right") argument for the positives of Trump's presidency, but the view of his supporters that he's some kind of truth-teller is bizarre as ****. He can't talk without lying or embellishing or using massive bravado. He's the most phoney public figure I can think of.

His supporters who try to argue this stuff with me never actually mention what they think he is doing right. They can only mention how successful and smart he is, how he's such a straight shooter, how he's not Obama, etc. I'm not sure they actually know what he's doing - they've just been swayed by the personality. I know that isn't true for all of his fan base, as I'm sure some of them are actually paying attention, but I don't know any of those supporters. I only know the ones who trust that he is fixing everything because he said he would.
 
Seems like this is the main reason people support Trump.
Which is bizarre because he is just about the most dishonest person I can think of. I think when people say he 'says it like it is' they mean he 'says the horrible things we have been to afraid to say out loud.' Trump's appeal is to our most base instincts rather than our better angels. And that kind of thing really resonates with a certain type.
 
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The main reason is that many see the US as an oligarchy that is no longer responsive to the needs/sentiments of a large chunk of the population, and they see Trump as giving The Man the middle finger. Not only do his supporters not care about the "scandalous" statements that outrage liberal types, but they often agree with them.
 
Which is bizarre because he is just about the most dishonest person I can think of. I think when people say he 'says it like it is' they mean he 'says the horrible things we have been to afraid to say out loud.' Trump's appeal is to our most base instincts rather than our better angels. And that kind of thing really resonates with a certain type.

He speaks to those people @Siro referenced, disaffected and angry at oligarchic rule. He speaks to those who are emotionally attached to a whiter past, and he speaks to ultra nationalists who can agree athletes who kneel belong in a different country. He speaks to those for whom multiculturalism is the death of a nation, an affront to a flag. Nationalism and isolationism, anti-science, anti-authority. He marshals anger better then anyone else, and the ugliness that comes with that anger. He's what we want our children to never be, the worst foot forward, turn our back on our friends, insult and demean, lie daily, and treat the rule of law itself as something to be trampled beneath his ego. Erode and vilify the institutions of our democracy in service to self preservation, in service to Self.

Right now, that means playing up Spygate and Deep State, and another paranoid infested conspiracy theory, to supplant the narrative that can see right through this farce, even as some remain firmly entranced with the man. Somehow. People voted him in, but it was a highjacking and seeds of a cult that is not about to go quietly into the night, come what may. Here's hoping our better angels can find redress and swing the pendulum back, away from the cliff. Leave it to sidekicks like Bolton, and it will be war. And Iran may be #1 on the hit parade despite North Korea occupying the present spotlight.
 
One of my coworkers was just in my office praising Trump for being such an awesome president and one of the smartest men in the world. He is a follower of Trump's Twitter account and loves how "he tells it like it is." Pointing out the ways that none of this is true has done nothing in the past to dampen his enthusiasm for MAGA, so I didn't even try anymore.

I started joking with a co-worker today, who, inspite of his false claims otherwise, has the composure of a Trumpish mentality. I hate to even call it that because hard working, down to earth folks deserve a better icon to represent their virtues.

Anyway, I read some media blaming Trump for the catastrophic rise in oil prices and yada, yada, yada and ended it with this is the same stupid stuff the other side blamed Obama for.
 
In law school some report the highest legal counsel you can buy is this.... "If the law is on your side, argue the law. If the facts are on your side, argue the facts. If neither the law nor the facts are on your side, attack your opponent.".

Didn't know snowflake POTUS45 went to law school. Cool.

But you know, his most effective tools to reach his base are the names he learned in second grade: "crooked Hillary" "low energy Jeb" "Lyin Ted" He even puts down women based on menstuation, his highest maturity move. He knows his followers and plays to their mentality. Slept with a porn star and paid her off? You're the man!! He is a brilliant marketer and 40% of the country is lapping up his snake oil. Preying on the weak minded is his deal. America the gullible. In 30 years his supporters will be talking to their grandchildren with utter embarrassment, or lying about never supporting the guy they once worshiped.
 
In 30 years his supporters will be talking to their grandchildren with utter embarrassment, or lying about never supporting the guy they once worshiped.
"Grandpa, I was looking through your box of Nazi memorabilia and I found this MAGA hat! Please grandpa, tell me you weren't a Trump supporter."
 
"Chain" migration is bad because?
Because it lets those icky foreigners bring their icky family along with them. If you end chain migration potential immigrants have to weigh the risks of being separated from their families (I'm starting to see a theme here) and so may not come at all. Remember, Trump and his ilk aren't just interested in reducing illegal immigration, but legal immigration as well.
 
Right, there's no way to frame that other than the goal is to reduce the number of brown people coming here, legally. What we want is to shut the door on legal immigration and let people die in the desert trying to get past the wall.
 
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