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Predict the Rudy Gobert trade

Elizah Huge said:
Ok, you just missed the entire point of the post with your biased garbage but ok.
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What is the point? Mitchell will ask for a trade next off-season pretty much no matter what you do. So what's the point? I get it that you want to make a competitive team now. Unless you think this team is one of the favorites for the title next season, i really don't think we should be giving our own picks that far in the future.
 
stitches said:
What is the point? Mitchell will ask for a trade next off-season pretty much no matter what you do. So what's the point? I get it that you want to make a competitive team now. Unless you think this team is one of the favorites for the title next season, i really don't think we should be giving our own picks that far in the future.
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I don’t know that team is pretty damn good if you really think about it.
 
NUMBERICA said:
I mean, I’m team tank, so no. I want picks or promising rookie scale players.

On second thought: Since you could probably flip Sabonis and Barnes for such assets, then yes, actually.

Let me be clear on this though: if you’re asking me if I think Gobert is WAY better than Sabonis at playing winning basketball, the answer is yes.
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You do that deal in a second. A first from Sacramento... repackage Sabonis and Barnes later.
 
stitches said:
Just look at what freaking Vucevic or Sabonis got in a trade. If you think Gobert should fetch less then I don't really want to talk about basketball with you. We should treat Gobert with the respect he deserves and not with the urgency CAA wants to get rid off him. If someone wants him they should know who they are trading for - 3 time NBA all star, 4 time All NBA, 3 time DPOY, 6 time first team All D, the best player on a perennial playoff team. And it's not like those happened some distant time back in the past...like 5-10 years ago. This is still the same player! PUT SOME RESPECT ON THAT MAN's NAME and stop with the insulting offers.
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100% my man!!!!
These trade rumors on the internet make me want to vomit most of the time. I get Im a Jazz homer and a huge Rudy fan but God damn!!
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
There is a middle ground here though. It’s like buying a house… the mansion is a better house but the buyer may not be able to make the mortgage.

I’m not a Hunter fan personally… not even a huge JC guy but I think he’s good. I just think those pieces are more flexible than Rudy… I also think Clint is pretty under-rated. I’d rather get the stupid team premium but I think Orlando and Indiana had more patience than we might. We are also trying to do the thing where we trade something good now for something that is also good now but different. Those trades are pretty rare I think. So it’s just a challenging situation. It’s why I’d likely just tear it all down and cash out on everything possible. If you simply took picks and prospects back it’s easier to match stuff up and get great value.
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I like this post. I agree with your take on Hunter. TJ is really big on him but I have seen a few Atlanta games cause I watch the Jazz and the Hive and Im not convinced yet.. I really like Collins though.
 
Gobert is described as “absolutely a (Bulls President of Basketball Operations Arturas) Karnisovas guy.” Karnisovas is known to value length as a priority for building a team to a championship level. As for the talks of Zach LaVine’s free agency, it should be noted that league insiders felt Karnisovas had held a skeptical view of LaVine when he took the job with the Bulls, but of course LaVine’s emergence as a near-All-NBA level guard has shifted that somewhat.

The Raptors are another name to watch as they have been again actively looking at options to improve at center after striking out on bigger targets at the trade deadline and ultimately dealing for Thaddeus Young. The Raptors are limited to only the MLE unless they clear salary, so a trade is the most likely option.

Along those lines, don’t be surprised to see more smoke around a potential trade for OG Anunoby. The Raptors with a re-signed Masai Ujiri like their core, but ultimately upgrades will have to come with the inclusion of one of Fred VanVleet, Pascal Siakam, or Anunoby, and Rookie of the Year Scottie Barnes’ emergence opens the door for gauging Anunoby’s value on the market…

And that value is high.
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Ferguson_Mellochill said:
Rudy is being paid his market value. It's not a bad contract. If it were, there wouldn't be a trade market for him. The guy leads the league in rebounds, FG% and defensive =/-. He's a player who can put the right team over the top.
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Agreed on everything but the last line.

I don't think he can win a championship in the current NBA. He is too easy to scheme against. And if yall think that isn't true then Quin was a bozo.

Then there are those of us who think both.
 
The Jazz Wonderbra said:
Agreed on everything but the last line.

I don't think he can win a championship in the current NBA. He is too easy to scheme against. And if yall think that isn't true then Quin was a bozo.

Then there are those of us who think both.
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I don't agree that Rudy couldn't win a championship. If he played for Golden State or Boston that team would have the clear advantage to win it all.

Now practically, and maybe this is what you were referring to, it will be difficult to surround him with that type of talent when he eats up as much cap as he does.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
I don't agree that Rudy couldn't win a championship. If he played for Golden State or Boston that team would have the clear advantage to win it all.

Now practically, and maybe this is what you were referring to, it will be difficult to surround him with that type of talent when he eats up as much cap as he does.
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The nba is evolving a bunch right now. Teams that are more well rounded and flexible are going to be winning titles a lot more than just the super duper stars imo. It would be tough to get the right pieces around Rudy but I don’t think it’s impossible. He will be a huge piece in some matchups and a little less important in others.

I find it interesting Williams has had so much success in the playoffs and Boston is essentially dropping the big as their base defense… though Williams has come up higher at times. Putting some good two way wings around Rudy would be something I’d want to see. It’d also be interesting to see him on GS since they have no rolling bigs.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
They have tanked multiple times during this title run... they whiffed on Wiseman but still.

Let's be clear... every NBA title building strategy will fail more often than not. The thing that gives the most success has been drafting high and hitting on one of those picks. Every now and again you will have a Detroit, Dallas (Dirk was picked high but still), Milwaukee... but most of the titles will be won the way SA, LA, Miami, Boston, Cleveland, GS did... draft high... get lucky or be a glamour market and assemble a super team. We only have one of those routes available.
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Stockton and Malone were 16, and 13 in consecutive years. Probably the biggest two year hit in pro sports history.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
The nba is evolving a bunch right now. Teams that are more well rounded and flexible are going to be winning titles a lot more than just the super duper stars imo. It would be tough to get the right pieces around Rudy but I don’t think it’s impossible. He will be a huge piece in some matchups and a little less important in others.

I find it interesting Williams has had so much success in the playoffs and Boston is essentially dropping the big as their base defense… though Williams has come up higher at times. Putting some good two way wings around Rudy would be something I’d want to see. It’d also be interesting to see him on GS since they have no rolling bigs.
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Maybe we could get a two way wing for Donovan plus a decent draft pick to pick up another? If the cap jumps at some point you can add some more talent around Rudy and his contract won't be so prohibitive, assuming he can stay relatively productive by then. It wouldn't be the worse strategy in the world.
 
I really think the fact that the Bulls want Lavine to re-sign in free agency will keep them engaged in trade discussions for Gobert. There isn't a better move they could make that could get them in the top 4 of the EC.
 
It sounds like Atlanta wants a lottery pick and is shopping Collins for that. My guess is he goes to Portland.
 
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