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This? ^ From the guy who posted this?

No one hate mitchell here, He is just not as good as simmons as a player.

Please, give us all a break and go back to the 76s board, or at least start a new thread "Ben Simmons love". This is totally uncalled for in this thread.

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Ellis269 said:
Countdown on Most 3 point makes by a Rookie: Post Timberwolves - 1/1/18

1.) Damian Lillard, Portland (12/13) - 185
2.) Donovan Mitchell, Utah (17/18) - 175
3.) Steph Curry, GSW (09/10) - 166

Donovan Mitchell (17/18) - with one more 3 pointer tonight brings his total to 175

Needs 11 more to take over 1st.

5 games left to go. He needs to average 2.2 per game to do that. He’s been averaging 2.6 per game (on 7.3 attempts) since the win streak began back in January. Looking more and more likely that he’ll get there, but it won’t be until the last game in Portland that he tops Lillard. Which would be fitting since he passed Curry in Oakland.
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I wonder if Simmons will make 175 threes in his whole career...

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spycam1 said:
I wonder if Simmons will make 175 threes in his whole career...

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I wonder if Simmons will ever tie Mitchell's record for missed 3's? That's a rookie record that might stand for quite some time. As good as Mitchell is, he hurts the Jazz with his ineffiency from deep. Most of his misses are NOT last second heaves to beat the shot clock. And he also commits way too many TO's. Awards like ROY and MVP dont just go to the player with the highest scoring average.

Assists are just as important since you enabled a teammate to score. Rebounds are important; defense is important.

Simmons recognizes he doesnt have 3Pt range so he doesnt hurt his team by taking low-percentage shots. Donovan at times is a chucker.

Both players generally play to their strengths. Philadelphia is best having Simmons as a triple double player, but not as their top scorer. Utah has needed .Michell, despite his poor shooting at times, to carry the scoring load.

You can argue for either as ROY. But to hurl insults or disparage either really shows one's ignorance.

Personally, im a Jazz fan. I love what Mitchell has done. But i mark him down a notch for his inefficiency. And the fact Simmons can score, rebound or dish out double digit assists puts him ahead of Mitchell, IMO.
 
Jack Strop said:
I wonder if Simmons will ever tie Mitchell's record for missed 3's? That's a rookie record that might stand for quite some time. As good as Mitchell is, he hurts the Jazz with his ineffiency from deep. Most of his misses are NOT last second heaves to beat the shot clock. And he also commits way too many TO's. Awards like ROY and MVP dont just go to the player with the highest scoring average.

Assists are just as important since you enabled a teammate to score. Rebounds are important; defense is important.

Simmons recognizes he doesnt have 3Pt range so he doesnt hurt his team by taking low-percentage shots. Donovan at times is a chucker.

Both players generally play to their strengths. Philadelphia is best having Simmons as a triple double player, but not as their top scorer. Utah has needed .Michell, despite his poor shooting at times, to carry the scoring load.

You can argue for either as ROY. But to hurl insults or disparage either really shows one's ignorance.

Personally, im a Jazz fan. I love what Mitchell has done. But i mark him down a notch for his inefficiency. And the fact Simmons can score, rebound or dish out double digit assists puts him ahead of Mitchell, IMO.
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Oh my ****ing god!! You're an idiot. Mitchell can do everything Simmons can.

First, he will never have as many misses because he can't shoot!! He's one dimensional in that way as everything is in the paint with him, by the way Kobe is the all time leader in missed fg's. Are u going to sit here like an idiot and tell us all Simmons is better then Kobe?

Yesterday I literally saw Simmons standing at the three point line by himself with his man giving him 12 feet of space. As soon as next year everyone will be doing this, which will make it tougher to get assists and run the offense, which will also slow down Embiid as there will be one extra defender standing near the paint to help take Embiid out of his game. Mitchell won't have that problem, and teams will still be perplexed as ever as to how u stop him regardless of film.

I'm so ****ing sick of people saying Simmons is better because he only averages 4 less points (and increasing as time goes) And averaging a lot more assists and rebounds and blocks.

1. Simmons is 7 inches taller. He should average a lot more blocks and rebounds.

2. Simmons is not a better defender, just taller which means he doesn't have to work as hard as Mitchell to get great results, and makes it easier to recover when he makes a mistake.

3. He's a pg that can't shoot, his game is all about setting his team up, a team with an ultra young talent all over, Mitchell is a sg, his responsibility is to score and shoot threes midrange and drives, yet he's still a very good passer and can do it if he wanted to. With all that said, all of Simmons points come in the paint, of course he will be more efficient then Mitchell.

These are the only arguments I ever hear from Simmons fans. It's called justification for why Mitchell is better. I'm a fan of Simmons game, but I'm starting to hate him more and more everytime I here these unfounded justifications.

You heard it here. It's all about justification with Simmons for Simmons fans.


End of story.


Felt great to finally vent and get this off my chest. It's all about play style and they are as different as can be. The only difference is that Mitchell can do it all and there will never be a clear blue print as to how you stop Donovan Mitchell, period!!
 
Jack Strop said:
I wonder if Simmons will ever tie Mitchell's record for missed 3's? That's a rookie record that might stand for quite some time. As good as Mitchell is, he hurts the Jazz with his ineffiency from deep. Most of his misses are NOT last second heaves to beat the shot clock. And he also commits way too many TO's. Awards like ROY and MVP dont just go to the player with the highest scoring average.

Assists are just as important since you enabled a teammate to score. Rebounds are important; defense is important.

Simmons recognizes he doesnt have 3Pt range so he doesnt hurt his team by taking low-percentage shots. Donovan at times is a chucker.

Both players generally play to their strengths. Philadelphia is best having Simmons as a triple double player, but not as their top scorer. Utah has needed .Michell, despite his poor shooting at times, to carry the scoring load.

You can argue for either as ROY. But to hurl insults or disparage either really shows one's ignorance.

Personally, im a Jazz fan. I love what Mitchell has done. But i mark him down a notch for his inefficiency. And the fact Simmons can score, rebound or dish out double digit assists puts him ahead of Mitchell, IMO.
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Actually ROY is an award that almost always goes to the highest scorer. I'm sure there's only a handful of times that hasn't been the case. I'm not saying that's the way it should be (this year or any year), just pointing out the weirdness of that particular award.

I love Simmons btw; I've been a fan of his since he was in high school. I was in the draft thread chuckling at people suggesting that Ingram was a better prospect.

I also was a self-declared Mitchell homer before he was drafted by the Jazz.

I'll be cool with whoever wins it--and I hope this rivalry continues. The NBA needs more quality rivalries.

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"I wonder if Simmons will ever tie Mitchell's record for missed 3's? That's a rookie record that might stand for quite some time. "

"You can argue for either as ROY. But to hurl insults or disparage either really shows one's ignorance."

Hmmmm. Jack com'on now, dont try to have it both ways.

You can't really expect to be taken seriously by throwing shade at Donovan, and then shaming us for returning fire.

This is, after all, a "Mitchell" love thread. Simmons trolls have tried to turn it into a coronation of Ben by throwing shade at our man DM. They (you? ) invite disparagment by the arrogance of their homerism.

I will admit BS is a great rookie, but it chafes my chaps that BS fans can't or won't return the sentiment. It begs the question, what are they (you?) so afraid of?



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Stars Fan said:
"I wonder if Simmons will ever tie Mitchell's record for missed 3's? That's a rookie record that might stand for quite some time. "

"You can argue for either as ROY. But to hurl insults or disparage either really shows one's ignorance."

Hmmmm. Jack com'on now, dont try to have it both ways.

You can't really expect to be taken seriously by throwing shade at Donovan, and then shaming us for returning fire.

This is, after all, a "Mitchell" love thread. Simmons trolls have tried to turn it into a coronation of Ben by throwing shade at our man DM. They (you? ) invite disparagment by the arrogance of their homerism.

I will admit BS is a great rookie, but it chafes my chaps that BS fans can't or won't return the sentiment. It begs the question, what are they (you?) so afraid of?



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Like I said. There's a lot of justification going on
 
Jack Strop said:
I wonder if Simmons will ever tie Mitchell's record for missed 3's? That's a rookie record that might stand for quite some time. As good as Mitchell is, he hurts the Jazz with his ineffiency from deep. Most of his misses are NOT last second heaves to beat the shot clock. And he also commits way too many TO's. Awards like ROY and MVP dont just go to the player with the highest scoring average.

Assists are just as important since you enabled a teammate to score. Rebounds are important; defense is important.

Simmons recognizes he doesnt have 3Pt range so he doesnt hurt his team by taking low-percentage shots. Donovan at times is a chucker.

Both players generally play to their strengths. Philadelphia is best having Simmons as a triple double player, but not as their top scorer. Utah has needed .Michell, despite his poor shooting at times, to carry the scoring load.

You can argue for either as ROY. But to hurl insults or disparage either really shows one's ignorance.

Personally, im a Jazz fan. I love what Mitchell has done. But i mark him down a notch for his inefficiency. And the fact Simmons can score, rebound or dish out double digit assists puts him ahead of Mitchell, IMO.
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Simmons is phenomenal, and that’s why I said he is just as deserving of ROY as DM. DM is also equally as deserving and just as dynamic a player. DM is incredible, and if you gave me the chance to swap them straight up for one another today, as a Jazz fan, I wouldn’t do it and wouldn’t have a second thought about it. I love Donovan and everything about him. I believe Donovan’s efficiency issues he has on some nights will soon disappear and he will be one of the biggest and most dynamic stars in the NBA in short order. Whoever wins ROY, whatever, either guy deserves it, but I wouldn’t give Donovan up for anything at this point.
 
Jack Strop said:
I wonder if Simmons will ever tie Mitchell's record for missed 3's? That's a rookie record that might stand for quite some time. As good as Mitchell is, he hurts the Jazz with his ineffiency from deep. Most of his misses are NOT last second heaves to beat the shot clock. And he also commits way too many TO's.
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Too bad the jazz have Mitchell. Man they would be so good without him hurting them with his inefficient chucking. Probably be contenders without Mitchell holding us back and screwing everything up.

Am I doing it right? We are only supposed to insult the jazz player in this “more Simmons love” thread I guess.
 
oneye said:
Simmons is phenomenal, and that’s why I said he is just as deserving of ROY as DM. DM is also equally as deserving and just as dynamic a player. DM is incredible, and if you gave me the chance to swap them straight up for one another today, as a Jazz fan, I wouldn’t do it and wouldn’t have a second thought about it. I love Donovan and everything about him. I believe Donovan’s efficiency issues he has on some nights will soon disappear and he will be one of the biggest and most dynamic stars in the NBA in short order. Whoever wins ROY, whatever, either guy deserves it, but I wouldn’t give Donovan up for anything at this point.
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Well put. I was thinking the same thing. Who would I rather have? I came to the same conclusion you did. Not just because of how he plays, but for how he carries himself. His grace under pressure is amazing. Whether it is in front of the camera, or in crunch time, the kid is truly amazing. He is so composed, that I don't think it would bother him to not get ROY. Where as I think it would crush BS. So I kind of hope BS does get it. Donovan is going to be great regardless of winning the award or not. I get the impression he will keep working to improve his game until he is unstoppable. He is pretty close at times now. BS will be great, but wouldn't trade DM for anything.

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