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Wes Mantooth said:
Beasley interests me. I think he’s turned the corner so far as being a pro is concerned. He can play the 3 and the 4. His 78% FT% is better than Favors. His 9.0 rebounds per 36 despite playing on the perimeter much of the time is almost equal to Faves’ 9.2. His 2.7 assists per 36 is better than Faves 1.7. He’s obviously a far superior scorer and he’s a career 35.2% 3 point shooter (something Derrick could only dream of) and shot 39+% each of the last two years. With our coaching and continued maturity, I think the kid could be a 40+% consistently. As a stretch 4, that’s insane. Add in the fact that he can score other ways and that he’s a dynamic scorer that we don’t have outside of Mitchell, and a much different one too, and that’s a big asset, at a price that could be reasonable.

The big question of course is how is he on defense? I don’t know the answer to that but would imagine it’s God awful considering the Knicks team defense. That said, they didn’t have Gobert, Ingles, Rubio, Mitchell and company playing d beside him. And I think their coaching staff sucked quite frankly.

So yeah, on a production value basis, I am very interested in Beasley. There’s a reason he was the #2 pick. Crowder can start and Beasley can come in and be the scoring punch off the bench we sorely need.

Having said all this, I think the Knicks retain him at pretty much whatever price.
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Isn’t he unrestricted?

I’m actually pretty intrigued by him as well.
 
Bodhi said:
Isn’t he unrestricted?

I’m actually pretty intrigued by him as well.
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I think he may not be a great personality fit here... don’t think he’d be into our 3 hour practices. He’s perfect for a team like the knicks.
 
Douchebag K said:
You mean 9.5 ppg with .336 % on a garbage team ?? Sorry that = sukk ballzz
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No. You gotta look at it differently.

In this situation you dont just grab the season stats and define him by that. You have to look at the context of the situation.

This could be basically considered his rookie year or the first year he has gotten a real chance to prove anything. He has been buried on the bench up until this season. He started getting the chance when the injuries for the majic started piling up this year. Particularly to Aarron Gordon, Evan Fiurnier, and Vucevic. Meaning then he started to get a chance to shoot a little more. He had some really nice games during those times. He was a little inconsistent because this was basically his first shot at it. But also consider now all of sudden he is asked to carry a lot more of the load. I imagine he suddenly became a focal point of defenses with no one else to help him out.

It was an up and down season, but there were some games where he showed his potential. Again, thats how we gain some value here. You have to recognize it early. If he were averaging 20ppg on 50% shooting we would be looking at having to max him out and everyone would want him.

Let not pretend this didnt happen

 
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zman1527 said:
If you think he could be your key third piece, why not?


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‘Cause as much as I like him and think he’s turned the corner, **** happens and I don’t want to be stuck with that contract. 3/33 I’d do but it’s moot at this point as we don’t have the cap room anyway.
 
Also, we need a legit backup pg. Not Neto. And not Exum. If we re-sign him, fine, but we need someone that legit can run the offense if Rubio goes down. There are enough names out there this summer. We need to snag one.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
Also, we need a legit backup pg. Not Neto. And not Exum. If we re-sign him, fine, but we need someone that legit can run the offense if Rubio goes down. There are enough names out there this summer. We need to snag one.
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Patrick Beverley.
 
Where’s this idea that Hezonja can play the 4 coming from? That’s a genuine question as I don’t watch him, but I really dislike the idea of taking a wing and saying they’re a stretch four because they’re 6’8”, which seems to happen with every 6’8” wing. I think those kind of guys fit a different type of definition of stretch four, where you’re stretching the definition of a 4 to apply to a guy who isn’t one.
 
LifeOnaPlate said:
He basically fleeced the dumb Nets ownership. Like when a guy in Fantasy trades LeBron for leftover trash, then beats everyone soundly. Kills the parity of the competition.
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Yes but he had lots of opportunities to cash in those picks for proven guys and waited... most would have moved a pick for butler or PG.
 
infection said:
Where’s this idea that Hezonja can play the 4 coming from? That’s a genuine question as I don’t watch him, but I really dislike the idea of taking a wing and saying they’re a stretch four because they’re 6’8”, which seems to happen with every 6’8” wing. I think those kind of guys fit a different type of definition of stretch four, where you’re stretching the definition of a 4 to apply to a guy who isn’t one.
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He rebounds well and played there a bit.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
He rebounds well and played there a bit.
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I don’t know. Poor rebounding big men is a huge pet peeve for me, kind of akin to missing the first of two free throws. Don’t like 4s who can’t grab at least 8 rebounds per 36, which I know is now a harsh criteria only because the league has continued to put high school point guards at the 4 spot.
 
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