The point is modern science isn't always right. And in this case there is nothing that has really been proven. One person's beliefs are just as valid as another's. I'm not even religious but it's ****ing annoying when the people bitching about intolerance are the most intolerant themselves.
I am unaware that "modern science" has declared a single cause of homosexuality, nor are they likely to, since it probably has no sngle cause.
However, talking about science "proving" anything is ignorance itself. Science is an empirical process. Proof is for mathematicians and philosophers.
Even though you've said this multiple times, it's still nothing more than a ******** argument seeking to silence freedom of speech. Just say what you mean and move on. You want to silence all speech that doesn't agree with your agenda. Nothing more.
The concept of freedom of speech is *very* dependent on holding others accountable for their speech. It's about the free *exchange* of ideas, not just expression of them.
Are you really suggesting that Mormon children in, say, California are not harrassed and treated poorly because of their beliefs? That's pretty damn silly.
You mean, by radical Trnitarian Christians, on general principals? I have no doubt they get mistreated regularly. Religious peple are vicious.
Or, do you mean mistreated by the people they (or their parents) want to deny a fundamental freedom to? People who act to deny freedoms in America often get mistreated, and sometimes their kids suffer as well.
If you aren't then are you arguing they won't commit suicide for being treated as social outcasts [because of their beliefs]? That's pretty damn silly.
Do Mormons have higher teen suicide rates than the general population? If not, your whole argument seems rather trite. Being part of a small, close-knit religious community that teaches its kids to expect persecution might increase or decrease the suicide rate. I'm not really sure.
We should extend that logic and make religion illegal across the board. Then people who vote won't be influenced, and we'll all be better off.
That seems extreme. Why not just expect churches to respect the divide?
Packer didnt lie. Homosexuals can reverse their feelings. If Anne Heche can do it, anybody can.
What makes you think she reverse anything? You have heard of "bisexual", have you not?
So Elder Packer is forcing gay youth to kill themselves!
Are you really confused by the difference between "complicit" and "forcing"?
"The government should stay out if the business of the Saints and let us worship according to the dictates of our own conscience. If there ever comes a day when the Saints interfere with the rights of others to live as they see fit, you can know with assurance that the Church is no longer led by a Prophet, but a mere man."
--Brigham Young
Bravo!